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[mafergut]

You're not going to convince me to try, thanks. I hate cold feet more than anything.

By the way, David @muchacho, nice single and better TPS than my PB single. And it has a fairly high movecount for a Roux solve so... there's room for improvement there. Do you have a reconstruction of your 12.16 PB single? I'm curious if it's just lower movecount or higher TPS. From my top singles that I have reconstructed, the best TPS I have recorded is 4.32 but most common is only around 3.4-3.5.

 

[muchacho]

That one was only 2.79 tps, solution was absurly short (Roux may be better for getting good singles).

25560 16-ago-2016 10:50:07 00:12.166 B2 F2 D2 R2 U' B2 R2 L2 U F2 D L' D U' F' D R' U2 R F2 L D'

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M' Uw2 U B U F'
M' U R U R2 U' R'
U' F R2 D R' U R D' R2' U' F'
M2 U M' U M' U2 M' U' M2 U

I've tried feet solving, 12 minutes to F2B and then gave up while trying to do CMLL, next year I'll try again.

 

[mafergut]

Nice movecount. That's what I like the most about Roux. Maybe my only option of ever getting a sub-10 single would be to change to Roux... but I'd need to spend another 3-4 years practising and, to be honest, I don't think I have the will power to do that. Unless I don't see any progress in my times during 2017. Then I might consider changing method, even if only to start getting PBs again

It's written, so by end of 2017 if my signature still says PB single 11.50 you are allowed to remind me what I said and force me into learning Roux seriously.

 

[muchacho]

I would, but won't happen. You'll get a PB on the Valk3 and that will force me to buy it.

Yeah, 34 moves with no skips was crazy. But being efficient on purpose looks crazy difficult also (for me).

 

[newtonbase]

I'm tempted to give feet a try. Never thought I would ever say that

Me neither!

 

[mafergut]

Well, did an Ao25 (no time for another Ao50) and got much better results. I don't know if it's PB as I don't track Ao25 but I got close to sub-18. Started with the Weekly Comp Ao5 and decided to continue:

Generated By csTimer on 2016-10-7
avg of 25: 18.06

Time List:
(15.67), 18.40, (15.85), 19.70, 18.62, 17.00, (22.72), 16.55, (22.66), 16.65, 19.36, 19.00, 18.30, 17.50, 17.18, 16.23, 17.02, 16.70, 21.21, 16.74, 18.42, 20.07, 17.29, 17.08, 20.18

 

[muchacho]

That's good, I'm already looking for the best price for the Valk.

Is that how averages work? So not counting the 4 best/worst solves in an Ao50 and 8 best/worst times in an Ao100? I'm such a noob, I would have counted 98 times of an Ao100

 

[newtonbase]

Yet another sub 2min 3BLD DNF. Recall error on 1 sticker this time caused 3 incorrect edges.

 

[pglewis]

Congrats!

These are my 45 3x3 PB singles... it was fun getting PBs frequently... now only 1 after May

Spoiler: PBs

25560 16-ago-2016 10:50:07 00:12.166 B2 F2 D2 R2 U' B2 R2 L2 U F2 D L' D U' F' D R' U2 R F2 L D'
17862 20-may-2016 19:56:26 00:13.831 F2 D L2 U2 F2 R2 D L2 B2 R2 F' R' U2 R' F U' B' R2 F2 L'
14508 21-abr-2016 16:16:36 00:14.352 F2 U' B2 R2 D' L2 F2 D B2 U2 B2 R' B' L2 D2 R B U L U L U'
13595 14-abr-2016 8:54:45 00:15.271 U' L2 U2 F2 R2 F2 D' F2 U' R2 U2 R' B U' F R' B' F2 U2 R2 L2
10841 09-mar-2016 14:37:32 00:15.455 L2 D U2 R2 U2 L2 B2 R2 D L2 D2 B' U' R2 B' R U B2 U2 L' U'
10634 06-mar-2016 9:52:32 00:16.216 B2 D2 F2 R2 B2 U' L2 D R2 F' U F R' L2 U B' D R' L2 D2
4788 04-dic-2015 15:49:07 00:16.328 D' B2 F2 D' L2 B2 D U R2 L2 F' R' U' B' R' B2 F' D2 U L U'
4558 22-nov-2015 11:56:41 00:19.088 U' R2 B2 D B2 D2 R2 B2 D F2 U B' R' L B' U2 F D F' L2 D2
4440 20-nov-2015 9:19:05 00:19.511 R2 B2 D' F2 D' L2 D2 L2 U2 F2 D2 B U2 B D' R U2 F' R D' R2
3700 10-nov-2015 17:32:21 00:21.534 U L2 D2 U' F' R2 B F' U L2 B U' L2 U2 B2 L2 D B2
3493 04-nov-2015 14:10:39 00:22.295 U R2 U F2 L2 U' R2 U' B2 F2 L2 F' L' B2 R U L' F' U' L2 D
3343 31-oct-2015 9:36:24 00:22.621 D R2 D2 L2 D' B2 U2 B2 U R2 U' L' F L2 U2 F D' B2 R' B2 F2
1686 14-sep-2015 11:07:13 00:23.063 R2 D2 L2 U' F2 D' F2 R2 U B2 U2 R U' B D F D' R2 U L U'
1623 13-sep-2015 10:08:45 00:24.278 D' B2 R2 D' L2 U F2 U2 R2 U B2 L' B L D R' B' R D' R' F2
1401 02-sep-2015 10:12:57 00:27.934 D' F D' L2 F' D' R F R2 D' R B2 F' U2 B D' B' D
1286 28-ago-2015 12:15:58 00:32.141 R2 U R2 D2 L2 F2 L2 U' L2 F2 D2 R F' D' B2 U B2 L' B' R' F D'
1275 28-ago-2015 12:02:04 00:32.422 F2 U' R2 D L2 U' B2 U F2 R2 D R D L2 B' U' R F D' U' R D2
1231 27-ago-2015 9:09:09 00:32.535 F2 D2 R2 F2 D2 L2 U2 L2 U2 B2 U2 R' U2 L2 B' L B2 F' R' F' D2 U'
1072 23-ago-2015 11:24:47 00:32.878 U2 R2 L2 F2 U R2 L2 F2 U' L2 U2 B' L2 F L D2 L D B2 U2 L'
749 11-ago-2015 10:45:51 00:32.983 D R2 F2 L2 U' L2 D2 R2 D' R2 U2 B F' R' B U' F L' U' F2 D' U2
483 31-jul-2015 9:30:39 00:35.126 B2 R2 D' F2 U' B2 U2 B2 L2 F2 L2 B D2 R' B D' R2 F' U2 B2 L' D'
467 30-jul-2015 16:58:54 00:41.093 U2 R2 U' F2 R2 D L2 B2 L2 D' B' F U' R F' L' F' U B' U'
396 27-jul-2015 19:13:06 00:42.987 U' F2 L2 F2 D U2 F2 U' B2 L2 U2 L F2 U' B U2 R B2 D B' D U'
391 27-jul-2015 18:24:48 00:48.973 D2 L2 D' R2 F2 D L2 D2 B2 R2 F B2 D2 R' U' F R2 L' B R'
369 26-jul-2015 12:06:39 00:49.893 B2 R2 L2 F2 D L2 D' L2 B2 F2 U2 F' D' L2 B' L U' B2 U R B2
364 26-jul-2015 11:56:35 00:51.189 R2 L2 U' L2 U' B2 F2 U2 B2 D R2 B D' F2 U2 R B D2 B' F'
304 23-jul-2015 10:04:50 00:52.069 F2 L2 F2 D L2 D2 U B2 L2 D2 R L' U' F' U2 R2 B L' U' R' B
257 19-jul-2015 9:52:50 00:54.477 D2 R2 L2 U' B2 L2 D2 B2 U R2 U B L B2 D' U' R F2 R2 U2 F' D2
232 18-jul-2015 9:15:58 01:05.572 R2 L2 B2 L2 D R2 D2 L2 F2 L2 U R' U2 L F' U' B2 R2 B2 R F2
157 15-jul-2015 11:31:03 01:07.317 L2 U2 B2 D' B2 R2 L2 F2 L2 D2 L' U' B' L2 F2 L D2 R' U' B
142 14-jul-2015 8:32:23 01:09.732 U B2 R2 B2 U F2 D' U2 F2 D2 F2 R' L2 D B' U2 R L' U F' L2 U'
138 14-jul-2015 8:21:34 01:17.148 U L2 B2 U2 B2 U L2 B2 U' F2 D' R' U B F' D' B' F L D F
115 11-jul-2015 12:45:47 01:26.170 F2 D' B2 U' L2 F2 R2 U R2 F2 R' F2 L' B D L F U2 F2 U2
91 10-jul-2015 11:14:52 01:33.802 L2 U2 B2 D' B2 R2 B2 D' L2 U' R2 B' R' U' B U' L2 F' D' B' R2 D
85 10-jul-2015 10:35:04 01:42.739 R2 U' B2 U B2 U F2 D L2 B2 U' L' D2 B U2 L D B' R U' R' U2
43 08-jul-2015 13:06:39 01:53.281 D' L2 B2 R2 U' B2 D' B2 D2 B2 U' L U' F2 U' L F L' F2 L2 D'
42 08-jul-2015 13:03:17 02:18.199 F2 U F2 D R2 D' L2 U F2 R2 D' R' F2 R' F L D U' B' R2
41 08-jul-2015 12:59:53 02:23.520 R2 D2 F2 U2 B2 R2 D B2 R2 U L2 F D' R D2 U' B' F U L' B D
19 07-jul-2015 19:48:00 02:36.837 D' F2 U2 L2 F2 D L2 B2 D' F2 D F' D2 R' B' F L2 U' F' L D' U
18 07-jul-2015 18:41:38 03:10.723 U2 R2 L2 F2 R2 U F2 U F2 L2 U L' U2 L B' D R2 B U' F2 D
8 07-jul-2015 12:04:41 03:15.764 D F2 D' F2 U2 F2 R2 F2 U2 F2 D2 F' D2 F R' B D F2 D' B D'
5 07-jul-2015 11:43:33 04:31.351 L2 F2 U' L2 D2 F2 U' F2 D F2 U' L' B2 U' F' R2 L U' F' R' D' U2
4 07-jul-2015 11:25:11 05:13.100 F2 L2 D U L2 U R2 F2 L2 U L' F' U' B' R L' D B' R U' L
2 07-jul-2015 9:32:23 06:06.769 B2 R2 L2 U2 R2 L2 B2 D F2 D F2 R' U' B2 R L2 B D B F D2
1 07-jul-2015 8:40:00 07:15.045 D2 R2 U F2 U B2 D' R2 D' L2 D2 L R2 U' B' F L2 U R' D B2 U

Wow, that's some fast early progress by my standards! It has taken me months to get to a mid 30s PR, I'm just hoping all that means is I'll have a high ceiling lol.

 

[mark49152]

Yet another sub 2min 3BLD DNF. Recall error on 1 sticker this time caused 3 incorrect edges.

Wow you are getting fast.

@h2f, I saw your post in the accomplishment thread. What are your splits now between memo, exec and corners?

 

[newtonbase]

Wow you are getting fast

You are twice as fast when it comes to successes but I'm getting there.

 

[h2f]

Wow you are getting fast.

@h2f, I saw your post in the accomplishment thread. What are your splits now between memo, exec and corners?

Im very inconsistent. In good solves its like 20-15-30 in bad 50-30-40. I need to make some comms practice.

 

[mark49152]

You are twice as fast when it comes to successes but I'm getting there.

Sub-2 is a huge milestone, and that's an impressive rate of improvement.

Im very inconsistent. In good solves its like 20-15-30 in bad 50-30-40. I need to make some comms practice.

Is that memo-corners-edges? Do you use full 3-style for both?

 

[mafergut]

That's good, I'm already looking for the best price for the Valk.

Is that how averages work? So not counting the 4 best/worst solves in an Ao50 and 8 best/worst times in an Ao100? I'm such a noob, I would have counted 98 times of an Ao100

I think you have to take out the best 5% and worst 5% rounded up. So, 2 solves for Ao25, 3 for Ao50 and 5 for Ao100. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
And yes, the Valk is worth it in my opinion. And @PenguinsDontFly is using it as his new main so, it must be good for Roux too.

 

[Jason Green]

I used beginners method for LL, so no need for muscle memory. EO is easy. For CO, I re-learned how to arrange the corners to use sunes only. For CP I used comms from BLD. For EP, U perm is easy.

I do mostly just sunes and a few of the easy OLLs, I can do a J perm now, but I still am over a minute every time so that's very good. I don't practice a lot but I've started doing a few solves a day.

 

[newtonbase]

I had the checkerboard OLL come up in my last official OH solve so I stopped the timer. It was already going badly.

 

[h2f]

Is that memo-corners-edges? Do you use full 3-style for both?

Yes Mark. Memo - corners- edges. And full 3style.

 

[mark49152]

Yes Mark. Memo - corners- edges. And full 3style.

How much difference do you think edge comms make? M2 is already pretty efficient.

I vaguely think I've asked you these questions before. My memory is terrible for everything except BLD

 

[h2f]

How much difference do you think edge comms make? M2 is already pretty efficient.

I vaguely think I've asked you these questions before. My memory is terrible for everything except BLD

I dont remember if you asked before...[emoji2]

Edge comms are Easy and if you remember my 54 sec solution you see the difference. Im slow but i think i save at least 10 sec on every solve. Most of my comms are based on adv m2 and cacelations. I think it worth knowing.

 

[pglewis]

I'm sure plenty of people use these but I couldn't find any references for these alternates and figured I'd drop 'em here. I was digging around for smoother ways to do a few things in my personal F2L bootcamp and came up with some sledgehammer/hedgeslammer alternates that seem to flow really nicely, could be useful in some grip contexts:

l' U l F' // sledge alt
F l' U' l // hedge alt
r U' r' F // lefty sledge alt
F' r U r' // lefty hedge alt