[Discussion] Cumulative Cutoffs

[JustinTimeCuber]

What happens if they set a cumulative cutoff of 20 seconds in 2x2 at a competition and I get times of 8, 6+, 3, 4. Do I get no average or a 6 average?

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[Laura O]

What happens if they set a cumulative cutoff of 20 seconds in 2x2 at a competition and I get times of 8, 6+, 3, 4. Do I get no average or a 6 average?

No, you get the right to call the organizers "dumb".

 

[guysensei1]

No, you get the right to call the organizers "dumb".

That doesn't answer his question :/

 

[One Wheel]

What happens if they set a cumulative cutoff of 20 seconds in 2x2 at a competition and I get times of 8, 6+, 3, 4. Do I get no average or a 6 average?

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If I was interpreting the rule I would record your result as 8, 8, (3), 4, (DNS) = 6.67. But that's just me, and I have about as much authority on the subject as your great aunt's third cousin's pet hamster's imaginary friend.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

maybe the cutoff was not in the schedule but instead imposed because they were way behind schedule after setting a 2:45 soft cutoff on 4x4?

 

[One Wheel]

. . . a 2:45 soft cutoff on 4x4

That sounds fantastic.

 

[Ranzha]

What happens if they set a cumulative cutoff of 20 seconds in 2x2 at a competition and I get times of 8, 6+, 3, 4. Do I get no average or a 6 average?

No average.

maybe the cutoff was not in the schedule but instead imposed because they were way behind schedule after setting a 2:45 soft cutoff on 4x4?

What the hell are you on about?

No, you get the right to call the organizers "dumb".

Seriously?

 

[One Wheel]

No average.

Why could they not drop the 5th (DNS) solve the same as if it was a DNF?

 

[Ranzha]

Why could they not drop the 5th (DNS) solve the same as if it was a DNF?

With a cumulative cutoff, you wouldn't be given a 5th attempt, so none would be recorded. For an average of 5 to be taken, there need to be 5 attempts.

This idea was intended for bo3/mo3 events, which is why I brought up the BLD examples.

 

[One Wheel]

With a cumulative cutoff, you wouldn't be given a 5th attempt, so none would be recorded. For an average of 5 to be taken, there need to be 5 attempts.

This idea was intended for bo3/mo3 events, which is why I brought up the BLD examples.

I guess that makes sense, although it seems that adding and then dropping a final DNS to achieve an average is a logical extension to the idea, since in a normal Ao5 I could (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) simply start and stop the timer, recording a DNF, presuming that my other 4 solves were good.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

yeah I have to agree that this idea makes no sense for ao5 events

About the weirdly specific comments I was talking about the time I failed in 2x2 lolz