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I watched a couple of Hoya tutorials last night and decided that as my 4x4 times are nothing special with regular reduction method (I average about 1:55) I may as well attempt to change method to something with more potential.

I did a Hoya Ao25 over lunchtime of 2:06.33. Nine of the 25 times were better than my (admittedly unimpressive) competition PB so I think I will stick with Hoya for a while and see what progress I can make.

I also did a 5x5 Hoya solve last night just to see how it would work but will just use Hoya on 4x4 for the time being until I've got my technique improved a bit further.
 
Shaky Hands said:
I watched a couple of Hoya tutorials last night and decided that as my 4x4 times are nothing special with regular reduction method (I average about 1:55) I may as well attempt to change method to something with more potential.

I did a Hoya Ao25 over lunchtime of 2:06.33. Nine of the 25 times were better than my (admittedly unimpressive) competition PB so I think I will stick with Hoya for a while and see what progress I can make.

I also did a 5x5 Hoya solve last night just to see how it would work but will just use Hoya on 4x4 for the time being until I've got my technique improved a bit further.
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I started doing Hoya with 4x4 to see if I could improve on my times using Yau. As yet my Yau times are still better than using Hoya. Not sure if I'll continue pursuing Hoya, but then again I've done very little 4x4 lately ... waiting for my Yuxin 4x4 to arrive. I've tried Hoya and Yau on 5x5 and for me they just doesn't work well enough for me to abandon reduction with free-slice at the moment.
 
@Shaky Hands - Hoya is a great method Andy. I know @mark49152 uses it for 4 and 5. I did have Adam Greenwood show me on 5 and got really into it but progression with reduction has stalled my practice a bit.

Thanks again @MarcelP . All out TPS paying off again :D

Don't ask about solve 4! Haha

Average of 5: 12.77
1. 12.79 F' L2 U2 R2 B2 F' D2 U2 L2 B L2 R U' F' D' B' F2 D L2 D
2. (12.38) B R2 U2 F2 R2 B L2 F' L2 R2 F2 U R' U R2 B2 L F R' F2 R'
3. 13.11 U R L' B L' F' U2 L D2 F U F2 R2 D F2 R2 D F2 R2 B2 D
4. (22.14) F2 R F2 L2 R D2 B2 L' D2 F2 R' B' U' B R' B2 R' D F' U2 L'
5. 12.40 D' R' B' U L' D' F' L F' U B2 D2 B2 U L2 D2 B2 L2 B2 U

 
Selkie said:
12.77 PB Ao5 (previous was 12.91)

All out TPS ... and on film to be uploaded soon :D
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OMG! That is incredible.. You need to go to a competition soon LOL.. Congrats on the PB! I feel like it will be raining PB's soon for me too.

EDIT: now I saw the video too.. LOL
Do three very fast solves.. then look at average... become very nervous... mess up with a 22. set down cube.. get ready to curse the hell out of something.. then realise I still can make a great average... put all the anger and speed in last solve... it works... Jay!
 
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MarcelP said:
OMG! That is incredible.. You need to go to a competition soon LOL.. Congrats on the PB! I feel like it will be raining PB's soon for me too.

EDIT: now I saw the video too.. LOL
Do three very fast solves.. then look at average... become very nervous... mess up with a 22. set down cube.. get ready to curse the hell out of something.. then realise I still can make a great average... put all the anger and speed in last solve... it works... Jay!
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Haha very close Marcel. I have had 3-4 average in last 2 weeks where first 3 solves were great. On all occasions I have ruined solves 4 and 5. I saw I had ruined 4 so was more determined and concentrated on the last solve.

mark49152 said:
@Selkie, nice solves. Despite what you say about TPS, it still looks more fluid than fast :).
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Thanks Mark. Its promising indeed. As I mentioned earlier it feels very odd as it is not how I have solved but going to keep working on it and see what all out TPS can do for me in Guildford.

h2f said:
Indeed, nice solves.

I got 22 sub20 solves in a row. But camera wasnt on.
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Thats great Grzegorz. Have you been trying similar in fast TPS mate?
 
Yeah, Chris. I was ~20+ in the spring time and since late April I've focused on Roux. In first days of July I've back to CFOP and I broke sub20 and still slowly progressing. Roux let me also become dual color neutral though I do yellow cross only if the cross is easy. Most of them finish with nice times - I think today I got one 15 with yellow cross.
 
JohnnyReggae said:
I find at night after having a couple glasses of wine with the wife that fast solves are not going to happen, I spend the time doing slower solves concentrating solely on looking ahead. Although this can be difficult depending on the number of glasses of wine consumed ;-)
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I don't drink until I'm done with practice for the night in general. Although sometimes after drinking some I'll decide to practice a bit more, but that practice "doesn't count". :)

Selkie said:
12.77 PB Ao5 (previous was 12.91)

All out TPS ... and on film to be uploaded soon :D
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Awesome stuff!
 
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