Older cubers discussions

[mafergut]

Ring is for D/D' .

Yep, I have problems at OH with algs that have R then D because after my pinky has to reach for R it has to retract so that ring has mobility to do D. Maybe other people has more independence of movement between those two fingers but mine are almost welded together

 

[Jason Green]

Ring is for D/D' .

And R R' too, at least how I do it, which is not much. I never thought I could use my pinky but I can a little bit now.

Edit: nevermind I meant pinky not ring, I misread your post.

 

[newtonbase]

Just had a go and I can't do R' with my pinky at all. I'll try with a smaller cube later on.

 

[Chree]

Just had a go and I can't do R' with my pinky at all. I'll try with a smaller cube later on.

Not sure how long you've been trying... but keep trying! My pinky was also very uncooperative when I first tried doing OH. It took a few days before I even felt ambitious enough to make it through F2L, let alone an entire solve. And months before I could call it "comfortable".

If you've never done it before, you basically have zero muscles that are interested in making that kind of movement. You're re-training your hand to do an entirely new thing. Gonna take time and a ton patience.

 

[earth2dan]

How about a race to sub-42? Because 2 sec per alg, and life the universe and everything.

Bonus likes for this deep thought

 

[phreaker]

Just had a go and I can't do R' with my pinky at all. I'll try with a smaller cube later on.

That's 100% normal at first, if you are an adult male with "average" size hands, you should be able to handle a 56/57mm cube with practice. But it will take practice.

Not sure how long you've been trying... but keep trying! My pinky was also very uncooperative when I first tried doing OH. It took a few days before I even felt ambitious enough to make it through F2L, let alone an entire solve. And months before I could call it "comfortable".

If you've never done it before, you basically have zero muscles that are interested in making that kind of movement. You're re-training your hand to do an entirely new thing. Gonna take time and a ton patience.

I actually used a 42mm Zhanchi to build my hand through that point, and then made the jump to 56/57mm by trying it a few times until it stuck finally this weekend. Now I can run through full solves, and learn PLL on the full size cube.

I really like the 42mm though... I'm keeping mine . So cute.

 

[h2f]

I actually used a 42mm Zhanchi to build my hand through that point, and then made the jump to 56/57mm by trying it a few times until it stuck finally this weekend. Now I can run through full solves, and learn PLL on the full size cube.

I really like the 42mm though... I'm keeping mine . So cute.

There's no need to use small cubes. Try normal and keep pushing.

 

[newtonbase]

Gonna take time and a ton patience.

That's 100% normal at first, if you are an adult male with "average" size hands, you should be able to handle a 56/57mm cube with practice. But it will take practice.

Adult male but with the hands of a girl. I'm time poor too so OH practice won't be happening I'm afraid.

 

[phreaker]

Adult male but with the hands of a girl. I'm time poor too so OH practice won't be happening I'm afraid.

If my wife were to take up OH, she'd have to use a 42mm. Maybe she could use a 50mm. Even Antoine learned on a 50mm, then moved up. There is no shame in small cubes.

 

[newtonbase]

I do have both of those cubes and maybe I'll have a play around with them but I already have more events to practice than I have time for.
I'm arranging to go to a film premier in Sheffield in a couple of weeks. There are other showings much closer to home but this means I get a 2 and a half hour practice session on the train.

 

[earth2dan]

Yeah, OH is definitely a grind at first. I genuinely thought I just physically couldn't do it. Persevere and eventually your fingers will start cooperating. My OH times are still terrible. I rarely break 1 min, but that's mainly because I revert to beginner OLL and 2-look PLL as I haven't practiced enough to learn efficient OH algs.

I just compiled 27 months of timed 3x3 solves from my cell phone timer. Obviously this isn't all my solves, just the ones I used my phone to time. Though, it's a pretty good representation of my overall progress over the last couple years and where I'm at now. Progress is slow these days :/

Spoiler: 3x3 Progress

 

[Logiqx]

No excuses oldies... 1.22s E-perm - 13TPS

Left ring finger for D/D' moves.

Edit... added slow motion as well.

 

[Jason Green]

I gotta time some more with the mat this way

 

[Shaky Hands]

Got most of the way through the final layer of my first attempt at a Megaminx solve with my new stickerless mega from the Cubicle order. Wasn't applying much pressure and the whole thing popped. A screw literally jumped out and whizzed past my eye. There's still one center cap that I haven't found yet.

Then I managed to pop my regular 5x5.

Clearly it's time to go to bed before something else goes wrong!

 

[Logiqx]

I gotta time some more with the mat this way

This isn't something regular for me but I should probably time all of my PLLs.

I just tried J-perm and got 0.92s... yay sub-1!

 

[One Wheel]

No excuses oldies... 1.22s E-perm - 13TPS

Never really tried timing algs before. Just did a 3.46 Ao5 E-perms, or 4.62 tps. I think U-perms are my fastest overall, I got as good as 2.32 Ao5/2.15 single, just now, which only works out to 3/3.26 tps htm or 4.31/4.65 qtm. I'll have to play with that more later.

 

[Chree]

If my wife were to take up OH, she'd have to use a 42mm. Maybe she could use a 50mm. Even Antoine learned on a 50mm, then moved up. There is no shame in small cubes.

Amen! I still main with a 50mm Zhanchi. Even bought a new one to replace my first 50 a couple months back. I might have to start hoarding these things since apparently no one's making mini cubes anymore *shakes fist at Moyu*

Got most of the way through the final layer of my first attempt at a Megaminx solve with my new stickerless mega from the Cubicle order. Wasn't applying much pressure and the whole thing popped. A screw literally jumped out and whizzed past my eye. There's still one center cap that I haven't found yet.

Then I managed to pop my regular 5x5.

Clearly it's time to go to bed before something else goes wrong!

Buuuuummer. That seems to be happening to a lot of people these days... defective Megas. There's an entire thread about it: https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/dayan-megaminx-keeps-popping-screw-on-one-side.60750/

 

[Shaky Hands]

Buuuuummer. That seems to be happening to a lot of people these days... defective Megas. There's an entire thread about it: https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/dayan-megaminx-keeps-popping-screw-on-one-side.60750/

Thanks, I hadn't seen that thread. And yes, this is/was a Dayan.

 

[mark49152]

Yes... peeeew... 47.56 after some tries :confused:

Just 0.01 short of my PB 47.55 set in Jan 2015, so the challenge remains . Despite getting way faster at everything since then, that PB still stands and the 48.25 today is the closest I've got.

Is there a way to like a post more than once? Because your post deserves at least... 42 likes Because, you know, every hitchhiker needs his/her own guide to the galaxy.

I wonder if that would have been recognised outside this thread. How old does one have to be? I remember watching it on TV when it first aired, one episode per week.

On a more serious tone... how do you go about doing those PLL attacks? Do you do the algs in a certain order? Like alphabetical or something? I'm sure I'd beat your times because I would forget to do half the PLLs

That sounds really cool! I might try but really doubt I can finish. Do you do an order that ends with it solved? Recommend any order?

Yes I drill PLLs in groups of three that return to the solved state. I do PLL attacks as those seven groups in order. I can post the groups tomorrow if anyone's interested. It does require doing some AUFs between algs, and exactly what AUFs will depend on your algs.

Occasionally I forget a whole group and am shocked to see a sub-40 time

 

[SenorJuan]

All this talk about OH, and how hard it is to do R' with yer pinky. True, it's dang hard to do any turn OH when you first start out, but I soon came to the conclusion that R' was just not viable, and reaching over and doing it with the index finger would lead to greater success. And I've stuck with that decision. If you practice enough, it's plenty quick enough, I'm sure young cubers will say it's slower, but for me, other factors limit my OH solve times.