Get to 3 min for 4x4 in one month realistic?

Lykos

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Hi,

I recently registered for my first tournament and I naively registered for several different competitions, even BLD and 4x4. I never solved 4x4 before except once almost 10 years ago to try it out. The tournament has a limit of 3 minutes for 4x4. Somehow, I was overly optimistic and thought this should be easy if I take a look. But now I am a bit scared now.

I first tried to figure it out by myself, I was able to solve it (but I redid the edges many times until I was lucky with parity) but it took very long. Then I did a tutorial about 2 edge chaining and tried it out and it took a shocking 7 minutes and I am super worried that I might not make it in the 3 minutes limit. Another problem I have is the fact that my 4x4 speedcube will only arrive the day before the competition, so I will have to practice with an old crappy cube that I have now until the competition.

So what would you say, was it overly optimistic to register for 4x4 and I should tell the organizers that I withdraw from 4x4?

Just to give you an estimate on my abilities: I know full OLL and my average is usually in the high 30s for 3x3. So I am definitely not a beginner, but ifI reached sub 40 only recently after cubing for 10 years, I am probably not the most talented cuber either (although, to be fair, only in the last few months I started taking it more seriously and learned OLL and PLL etc) Also, if I am nervous (which I will probably be during my first competition) then I am often 10 seconds slower or so.

Please don't give a simple yes/no answer, but tell me a bit more about it. E.g. it makes a huge difference for me if the answer is: "It's possible, but you would have to invest a lot of time on it and you wouldn't have much time to improve 3x3 and practice BLD." or "Should be easy, just solve it a few more times and you should get below 3 minutes soon."

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If you know full OLL and PLL and are sub-40, I think you can even get sub-2 in a month. I was sub-30 when I first solved a 4x4 and pretty much instantly got sub-2s. But if you can't do BLD yet I don't think one month is enough.
 
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Ok, cool, thanks a lot. Then I will stay in the competition. :-)

I can do BLD. Just very slowly and not very reliably. Therefore I would prefer to spend most of my time improving that.

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Sub-3 isn't very hard. I was sub-30 when I got my 4x4, and my times were already at the low-3 range. I have recently got back to big cubes (after a year long of my cube just sitting on the shelf), and got sub-2.5s pretty fast (within a week). Also, you know more algorithms than me, so I'd work on recognition and tps. If you don't know the OLL and PLL parities, you should learn the PLL one from the Moyu leaflet (you did order an AoSu, right?), and the OLL tutorial from cyotheking. He's pretty awesome.
 
He said seconds, not minutes. 2.5 seconds would be quite a sensation...

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Oh, right. :-)

Btw, about the question which cube I ordered: I ordered the Moyu Weisu. The Aosu was somehow not deliverable to my country...

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Maybe one day. But at the moment, my focus is more on 3x3 and BLD. :-)

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It doesn't matter about the time limit. Enter the event anyway and have some fun. The worst that can happen is that you go over 3 min and they DNF your solve. But if you don't enter, you don't get the chance of an awesome PB :D.
 
I'm about 80 solves (one week) into learning Yau. I was running 3:10-4:00ish with redux. My best Ao5 with Yau is 3:04.71, best single 2:30.44. Is there any hope that I'll get reliably sub-2? I've made a graph of my times, and after about 30-35 solves it seems to stop going down. I usually run 40-45 ave. on 3x3, with 2-look OLL and full PLL.
 
I'm about 80 solves (one week) into learning Yau. I was running 3:10-4:00ish with redux. My best Ao5 with Yau is 3:04.71, best single 2:30.44. Is there any hope that I'll get reliably sub-2? I've made a graph of my times, and after about 30-35 solves it seems to stop going down. I usually run 40-45 ave. on 3x3, with 2-look OLL and full PLL.

Imo, anyone can get sub-1 at least consistently if they really commit themselves to it.
 
Imo, anyone can get sub-1 at least consistently if they really commit themselves to it.

You're probably right, the question is how much commitment you're willing to give it. 2,529 people have official 4x4 times under 1 minute out of 10,390 with official times, or about 24.3%. 8,575 have official averages under 2 minutes, or 82.5%. That gives me statistical hope for 2 minutes, but I'm pretty pessimistic about 1.

This is my first 100 Yau solves (that i put in my spreadsheet), if it uploads properly:

4x4 Times.jpg
 
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