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[mafergut]

I'm happy only with my 3bld results in this week. But doing WC (and all set of blind events in it) gives me motivation to keep practice.

For 2bld you can choose 2 ways: first one - one look solve. For me it's too hard. The second is the mentioned by you - corners with OP. Just straight ahead. In 2x2 theres no centers and you have to choose the sticker which is always in proper orientation. The tutorial I saw suggests it should be BUF but I choosed DFB. I think BUF is a little better for 3cycle and DFB is quite good for OP. Of course when you get a few pieces solved or even a block you should orient cube in this posiotion. Memo I do is just audio pairs: AB CD etc. Twists I do the same as in OP corners. With OP I could do ~ 40 sec solves after some time of practice. With 3style it's quite easy to be around 30. In this week my results are poor (bad day - I had a car accident yesterday) but earlier I could do solves around 20 seconds. You can make algs like OP Y-perm (without first F). Y-perm with F - i do it for UBR (obvious) and FDR (R as a setup), LFD - setup D R... etc. You can Ja and Jb too. It depends which ones you do in normal solves.

I think that's all. Let me know if I wrote it quite clear. Good luck and practice.

Yeah, one-looking is definitely a possibility. I assume that's also why there is no WCA event for 2BLD, because most top 2x2 solvers can one-look most their solves but, for that you need to know CLL + full EG and know perfectly how to AUF for each case, which is not very easy. With Ortega I can one-look only very easy scrambles, not more than 1-3% so not an option.

I just did a sighted trial. I was lucky with the scramble, that had 3 corners already solved and no cycles, so just 4 targets. I have a bit of confusion with your way of naming target stickers. Not sure what BUF means and when you say I can do normal Y-perm for UBR... don't you mean UFR ("shoot" buffer in UBL to target in UFR).

Other than that the easy and sighted trial was successful. I now have to refresh the letter naming convention, I think it was clockwise from top-left on every face A to D for U face and then... the rest of the faces in not sure what order, maybe L, F, R, B, D? Will have to check some tutorial

 

[h2f]

Sorry for miswriting - of course by UBR I meant UFR. My buffer is UBL.

 

[newtonbase]

You are right. Speffz is clockwise on U L F R B D.

 

[mafergut]

Sorry for miswriting - of course by UBR I meant UFR. My buffer is UBL.

Thanks. As you can see I'm a total noob but you have helped me a lot. As soon as I can re-learn the letter scheme I will try the WC 2BLD scrambles. By the way, searching on the web I read somebody say this: "I solve 2BLD without AUF, because +2 is faster then predicting AUF"... I thought that in BLD you can only get either a solved cube or a DNF. It would increase the % of one look if you don't have to worry about AUF and can, instead, get a +2.

You are right. Speffz is clockwise on U L F R B D.

Thanks! I just found the video from which I learned OP back then. It was Zane C tutorial. And I also watched Noah's OP/M2 ones but never learned M2, just OP.

 

[h2f]

Thanks. As you can see I'm a total noob but you have helped me a lot. As soon as I can re-learn the letter scheme I will try the WC 2BLD scrambles. By the way, searching on the web I read somebody say this: "I solve 2BLD without AUF, because +2 is faster then predicting AUF"... I thought that in BLD you can only get either a solved cube or a DNF. It would increase the % of one look if you don't have to worry about AUF and can, instead, get a +2.

In bld events one move away from solved posiotion is the same like in sighted events. But I think the one who wrote it meant he's doing one-look. In OP or 3stle theres no AUF. If you do setup you can undo it - no prediction etc. I hope you know what I mean.

 

[newtonbase]

Thanks! I just found the video from which I learned OP back then. It was Zane C tutorial. And I also watched Noah's OP/M2 ones but never learned M2, just OP.

I did the same with Noah's videos. I couldn't understand his M2 explanations but I know it now. As you have found there are some very helpful blind solvers on this thread.

 

[h2f]

I did the same with Noah's videos. I couldn't understand his M2 explanations but I know it now. As you have found there are some very helpful blind solvers on this thread.

M2 is awsome. When you used to it the method is very fast and you can add easily many tricks to fasten your solves. I strongly recommend it for begginers.

 

[moralsh]

I'm starting next week with WC, tomorrow I'm going to fail as many events as I can [emoji13]

 

[newtonbase]

3BLD practice ahead of comp tomorrow is going really well. Just got a 2:57 and a couple of faster near misses. I'm giving myself 2 attempts in the 10 min limit unless a memo looks slow then I'll rage quit and move on. If I can't get a good memo comfortably under 2 mins then I'm not going to get it at all.

 

[h2f]

Good luck Adam in your tomorrow attempts.

 

[Selkie]

Thanks all, watching back there is still room for improvement. I am hating the number of cube rotations and pauses are still an issue. If I can get sub 16.5 at ACE comp in April I will be happy, do not want to set the bar too high.

Well, with a total of less than 5 BLD successes to my name and all those being 4+ years ago need some inspiration from your gentlemen as this weekend is "Tackling the Nemesis That is BLD" weekend. My wife is busy studying for her degree so have some time to devote.

My original successes were in OP but I am open to changing that.

What would you guys recommend for re-starting BLD. Go straight for M2? Or stick with OP? And is it worth investing the time in learning a full letter pair word system or will my POA system suffice.

Really want to get some success in this discipline

 

[newtonbase]

I say go straight for M2. It's easier than it seems and the move count is lower than OP. Also, there are lots of tricks to help avoid some of the trickier setups. Have a look at Mark's Advanced M2 thread once you know the basics https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?56076-Advanced-M2-guide

I'm not the person to ask about memo systems as I can't make up my mind what to use but in general terms I'd say use whatever works for you.

 

[h2f]

Thanks all, watching back there is still room for improvement. I am hating the number of cube rotations and pauses are still an issue. If I can get sub 16.5 at ACE comp in April I will be happy, do not want to set the bar too high.

Well, with a total of less than 5 BLD successes to my name and all those being 4+ years ago need some inspiration from your gentlemen as this weekend is "Tackling the Nemesis That is BLD" weekend. My wife is busy studying for her degree so have some time to devote.

My original successes were in OP but I am open to changing that.

What would you guys recommend for re-starting BLD. Go straight for M2? Or stick with OP? And is it worth investing the time in learning a full letter pair word system or will my POA system suffice.

Really want to get some success in this discipline

If I can give you an advice - go straight with Noah's tutorials. M2 and OP for corners is a very good mixture. There are persons who are sub 1 minute with it. The key is the memo. I think you dont need full letter pair word system - you can make your memo on the fly and it's enough. Regular practice is the key - 30 minutes per day is enough to improve very fast.

I recommend Noah's tutorials on Cubing World:
- how to solve 3bld, first part of the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRaf-dvamTE&list=PLJ1BFt1hZm2pocY5NpX-Kc5JABQ_jsaSh&index=8
- how to memo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JNpJaRccRE&index=2&list=PLJ1BFt1hZm2pocY5NpX-Kc5JABQ_jsaSh

Etc.

 

[mark49152]

3BLD practice ahead of comp tomorrow is going really well. Just got a 2:57 and a couple of faster near misses. I'm giving myself 2 attempts in the 10 min limit unless a memo looks slow then I'll rage quit and move on. If I can't get a good memo comfortably under 2 mins then I'm not going to get it at all.

That's harsh, it used to be 12 mins. I would say, go steady on the first and make sure of a success, then blast the other two

@Selkie: Definitely M2, and definitely Noah!

Some cool M2/OP here: https://youtu.be/iCMxmF0NJ1k

 

[Selkie]

Thanks for the advise guys. I will take a look at the videos now before bed. Appreciate the advice

 

[muchacho]

Oh, so I have a (very very small) chance of graduating in the race to sub-25 before you Jason? I'm not gonna make it (I'm at 26-27 seconds), but I'll try, hope you don't mind

And I failed, and I'd prefer to had done a 27 seconds average instead of getting this 25.00, arrrggh!

12. 21.894 D F L2 R2 D' F2 L2 B2 L D2 B2 F' D2 U B2 U2 R' U
11. 24.654 L B' D U' R D F D2 F L' B R2 D' F' R' B' U2 B
10. 24.830 B R U2 L B' D B' F L2 U' L2 U2 F2 R2 B L2 D2 U
9. 23.670 F L U B2 R' B F2 R F' D B2 F' L' R D B' R' B'
8. 21.743 F D' R2 D' L' R B D L' F2 D' F' L R' U' F D2 U
7. 19.735 R' F' D2 B2 F' D U L' F2 L2 R2 U L R D' F' R F
6. 24.831 R B' F' D' F' R' B2 L2 R' B2 F L2 B2 F R' U2 B L'
5. 25.383 B F2 D B' L B2 D2 U F' D2 U' B2 F2 L2 B F R U
4. 29.110 U F2 D' B F' R' B R U' R2 D2 R2 U L' R2 B L R
3. 23.487 F2 D' B F' L F2 D2 F' U F R' F2 R D2 U2 B' R D2
2. 30.398 B' D2 F' L' D' F' U' F D' U B' D' B F2 R2 U2 L2 R
1. 35.462 F' L2 R' D' F2 R' F2 L R' B2 F2 D' U B2 F D F' D

 

[mafergut]

And I failed, and I'd prefer to had done a 27 seconds average instead of getting this 25.00, arrrggh!

What a pity! You should have warmed up a bit to avoid those two initial solves and you could have made it!!!!
Today I plan on recording my graduation round for sub-25. If I manage to do it you all will have something to watch and have a good laugh at tomorrow!
If I cannot finally make it I will just do the average tomorrow and I will record another one when I have the time. I'm so busy even on weekends

Regarding 2BLD I have already done a couple more sighted solves with just visual memo (you know, touching the stickers with your fingers and remembering, this goes there and there...). It works for 4 targets or so but for more I will need letter pairs. It's a pity because I think if I managed to do just visual memo for 2x2 it would be much faster. Anyway, as practise for 3BLD later, I guess it's better to start practicing with Speffz asap. I hope I can get my 1st success on time for this WC, let's see!

 

[h2f]

In WC there are seldom scrsmbles with only 4 targets in 2 bld.

patataj patataj patataj

 

[muchacho]

What a pity! You should have warmed up a bit to avoid those two initial solves and you could have made it!!!!

I warmed, I was having one of those few good days and I though it was a good moment to try, and it was, but I rushed the first solves, too much pressure

 

[Jason Green]

I warmed, I was having one of those few good days and I though it was a good moment to try, and it was, but I rushed the first solves, too much pressure

Man that's rough! Ok let's go we can graduate at the same time now.