moralsh
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I use the same as mafergut for that case and sune+t for the mirror, now I now one more thing I can do
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Lid
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That for OH lol no pls, I use these for OH:
L' U L U2 L' U' y' L' U L U F
z' U L' U' L2 U L x' U L' U' L' F'
L' U L U2 L' U' y' L' U L U F
z' U L' U' L2 U L x' U L' U' L' F'
Jason Green
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I ordered a $6 46mm cube, just to get free shipping with an order of stickering supplies. I figured it might be easier to do some of the one handed stuff with my short fingers. 
LL Cool Skip
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That for OH lol no pls, I use these for OH:
L' U L U2 L' U' y' L' U L U F
z' U L' U' L2 U L x' U L' U' L' F'
I also do these, but more like this: R U' R' U2 R U y R U' R' U' F' ; R' U R U2 R' U' y L' U L U F
Maybe I should try your execution for OH
mafergut
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I usually can't tell from that anti-sune and what they call "back Sune" or a sune from the back
And for the mirror case you do a Sune + FRUR'U'F?
h2f
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I use the same as mafergut but I'm not happy with them. Others looks much better. Thanks guys I'll check them.
On the other hand - I just did a one attempt for weekly comp - Im too tired for more. It would be a success but I've memoed a flipped edge wrong. I thought it was fillped, so I've flipped it but it wasnt. So I've finished with two flipped edges. Memo was extra safe (12 minutes). Execution too - I hate my ss and I cant wait I will fix my broken Aochuang. Better next time.
On the other hand - I just did a one attempt for weekly comp - Im too tired for more. It would be a success but I've memoed a flipped edge wrong. I thought it was fillped, so I've flipped it but it wasnt. So I've finished with two flipped edges. Memo was extra safe (12 minutes). Execution too - I hate my ss and I cant wait I will fix my broken Aochuang. Better next time.
EvilGnome6
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Yep. It makes for an easy pair of algorithms to remember.
ryuusei86
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Sorry to interrupt, but I'm just checking in here after being referred over from my intro thread. I'm newly back into Rubik's cubes but am old enough to remember the original ones from the early 1980s. I loved those things! So I just had to go and buy a couple. I don't have much confidence that I will ever be particularly fast at solving them, but I do find it fun and relaxing to do so.
The first hurdle is going to be memorizing even the beginners' algorithms. I can tell that it needs to go into muscle memory as opposed to "memorizing letters" if that makes any sense. I've been solving the top layer by inspection for both 2x2 and 3x3, without using any algorithms per se, which may or may not be a good idea.
Anyway, I'll keep lurking here as I enjoy reading your discussions, insofar as I can understand them.
The first hurdle is going to be memorizing even the beginners' algorithms. I can tell that it needs to go into muscle memory as opposed to "memorizing letters" if that makes any sense. I've been solving the top layer by inspection for both 2x2 and 3x3, without using any algorithms per se, which may or may not be a good idea.
Anyway, I'll keep lurking here as I enjoy reading your discussions, insofar as I can understand them.
Jason Green
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I'm down to about a 25 second average and I can't understand 2/3 of what these guys talk about.Sorry to interrupt, but I'm just checking in here after being referred over from my intro thread. I'm newly back into Rubik's cubes but am old enough to remember the original ones from the early 1980s. I loved those things! So I just had to go and buy a couple. I don't have much confidence that I will ever be particularly fast at solving them, but I do find it fun and relaxing to do so.
The first hurdle is going to be memorizing even the beginners' algorithms. I can tell that it needs to go into muscle memory as opposed to "memorizing letters" if that makes any sense. I've been solving the top layer by inspection for both 2x2 and 3x3, without using any algorithms per se, which may or may not be a good idea.
Anyway, I'll keep lurking here as I enjoy reading your discussions, insofar as I can understand them.
Mainly because I only do 3x3 right now. You can get pretty fast if you practice, I'm faster than I would have dreamed several months ago.
Personally I would just recommend learning CFOP or Roux as opposed to beginners. CFOP just does not seem much harder to me and you will be learning more useful algs (I've heard Roux is easy but don't know it).
Welcome!
Jason Green
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I see you're from Texas. Where at? I'm in Fort Worth.
cubesp
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Welcome R86!
I find it relaxing too. But it is one of my major issues now !! I'd like "do it", not "do it fast" !! ;-)
By the way, I think muscle memory is a must. I'm not so fast, I started one year ago, I'm on 30 secs, and now I'm not able to write (directly) algs that I use.
I can't figure out someone really fast acting in terms of letters.
Eugenio
I find it relaxing too. But it is one of my major issues now !! I'd like "do it", not "do it fast" !! ;-)
By the way, I think muscle memory is a must. I'm not so fast, I started one year ago, I'm on 30 secs, and now I'm not able to write (directly) algs that I use.
I can't figure out someone really fast acting in terms of letters.
Eugenio
newtonbase
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Sorry to interrupt, but I'm just checking in here after being referred over from my intro thread. I'm newly back into Rubik's cubes but am old enough to remember the original ones from the early 1980s. I loved those things! So I just had to go and buy a couple. I don't have much confidence that I will ever be particularly fast at solving them, but I do find it fun and relaxing to do so.
The first hurdle is going to be memorizing even the beginners' algorithms. I can tell that it needs to go into muscle memory as opposed to "memorizing letters" if that makes any sense. I've been solving the top layer by inspection for both 2x2 and 3x3, without using any algorithms per se, which may or may not be a good idea.
Anyway, I'll keep lurking here as I enjoy reading your discussions, insofar as I can understand them.
Glad you made it here R86. The terminology is baffling to start with but it'll sink in eventually. The wiki part of the site is useful and we'll be happy to translate.
If you decide to go with CFOP as a method I'd strongly recommend starting with your cross on the bottom and learning 4 look last layer asap - that's Orient edges, orient corners, permute corners then permute edges. Also, whatever method you choose, try to be colour neutral as it's far easier to start like that than learn it later on.
ryuusei86
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I moved down to College Station from Minnesota about eight months ago. My friends in Austin like to remind me that I'm in Enemy Territory.
I will research this CFOP thing of which several of you speak. I am already practicing being color-neutral, although (speaking of being old) I'm having a bit of trouble telling white from yellow and/or red from orange in dim light, so I'm going to resticker my cube once my next package comes in. I can also see why placing the first cross on the bottom will save time in the long run.
Oh, and my addictive personality is kicking in so I see myself buying over 9000 cubes in the near future, but that's another topic.
My personal opinion on colour-neutrality is it's not really worth it for old-uns like us, especially as you haven't (yet) expressed desires to be really fast. Sticking to one starting colour shortens the learning curve.
Re. the colour similarity problem, fluoro orange and flat red are a good choice, and bright yellow (or fluoro) opposite white. But fluoro green is probably not needed, and you may confuse it with fluoro yellow.
Re. the dim light: there's some discussion 3 months ago in this thread about lighting. Summary: good lighting is essential.
Re. the colour similarity problem, fluoro orange and flat red are a good choice, and bright yellow (or fluoro) opposite white. But fluoro green is probably not needed, and you may confuse it with fluoro yellow.
Re. the dim light: there's some discussion 3 months ago in this thread about lighting. Summary: good lighting is essential.
Jason Green
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If someone would have suggested color neutral very early on for me I might have tried it, I doubt I would have stuck with it. I am very NOT color neutral now and it's low on my order to learn it. I'd rather be much faster at white cross for now.
Jason Green
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I learned primarily from badmephisto YouTube videos and cheat sheet. I recommend the first 7:35 of this video, and links in the description.I moved down to College Station from Minnesota about eight months ago. My friends in Austin like to remind me that I'm in Enemy Territory.
I will research this CFOP thing of which several of you speak. I am already practicing being color-neutral, although (speaking of being old) I'm having a bit of trouble telling white from yellow and/or red from orange in dim light, so I'm going to resticker my cube once my next package comes in. I can also see why placing the first cross on the bottom will save time in the long run.
Oh, and my addictive personality is kicking in so I see myself buying over 9000 cubes in the near future, but that's another topic.
https://youtu.be/ad2NdgoAg8I
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Welcome! You will fit right in here.
I disagree. I think if you start out CN it will be just as easy as starting one color. The principles are the same. It is just different approach from the start. And when you do not really want to be really fast, that is perfect to be practicing CN. CN is more fun. More options to an easy start. The easier the start, the better the lookahead, the better the times.
I changed to CN after cubing for a year. I was sub 30 when I made the switch. It took me 3 months to get my normal times back with CN.
Jason Green
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I barely missed graduation from the race to sub 25 (had two weeks under and got 25.02 this week). I wanted to graduate, but this will give me some more time before jumping in the race to sub 20!
ryuusei86
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Those badmephisto videos are awesome. Of course I can't see yet why every one of those 41 F2L algorithms works, but I certainly do see the logic of combining the solution of both layers into one step. And I can see how each of those algorithms makes sense in principle.
It's late here, so I'll keep working on 3x3x3 and 2x2x2 solves. I have a strong suspicion that knowing how to solve a 2x2 well can only help in learning to solve a 3x3 well, except for that parity thing that I seem to get about 75% of the time. :rolleyes:
It's late here, so I'll keep working on 3x3x3 and 2x2x2 solves. I have a strong suspicion that knowing how to solve a 2x2 well can only help in learning to solve a 3x3 well, except for that parity thing that I seem to get about 75% of the time. :rolleyes:
Jason Green
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I learned F2L completely intuitively until I was probably 35 seconds. By that I mean I would just get both pieces on top and departed (usually) and then figure out how to pair them up from there. There are some cases now that are more like an alg to me than intuition.
