mark49152
Premium Member
Congrats on the 3x3 PB though, it's nice to go home with at least one PB, especially the main event
.Also nice to switch method (3BLD) and still get a respectable result. Proves you're on track with it.
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.Also nice to switch method (3BLD) and still get a respectable result. Proves you're on track with it.
bubbagrub
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M moves are allowed in FMC (they count as two moves), but you need to know how to write them (see the regulations). Rotations are also allowed, and don't count as moves, but it makes life 100% easier if you don't use them, and learn instead to allocate letters (F, B, U, D, R, L) to colours rather than directions.
And FMC with Roux is not a bad idea -- Alex Lau got an official 26 using Roux. Ok, he was very lucky, but still, it's probably better than trying to use CFOP.
h2f
Premium Member
Yes I have. Roux is a good beginnig to FM - it teaches you how to build blocks and to deal with it. But not best option. M moves are not allowed and you must write them as RwR' or LwL' etc. So it counts as 2. But in home I did once 33 with pure Roux.
Scrmable: L2 B U2 B F2 D2 F' R' D' R F' L' F' L' R' B' F D
B L R F D' B2 U2 F R' U F' R // 2x2x3
U F' L F L' // eo
B2 R' F2 R B2 R' F2 R // insertion no cancelation
U' L U2 L' // F2L-1
U' L' U' L // without insertion it's 25 moves with 3 corners left. Insertion finder says there's no cancelation on insertions it finds.
alg.cubing.net
B L R F D' B2 U2 F R' U F' R // 2x2x3
U F' L F L' // eo
B2 R' F2 R B2 R' F2 R // insertion no cancelation
U' L U2 L' // F2L-1
U' L' U' L // without insertion it's 25 moves with 3 corners left. Insertion finder says there's no cancelation on insertions it finds.
alg.cubing.net
h2f
Premium Member
Congrats on the 3x3 PB though, it's nice to go home with at least one PB, especially the main event
Also nice to switch method (3BLD) and still get a respectable result. Proves you're on track with it.
Thank you. It matters to me what you wrote. I think the same way about it. Maybe I do a little break from 3bld and next try to solve it with comms on edges...
muchacho
Veteran
My turn!
19.088 U' R2 B2 D B2 D2 R2 B2 D F2 U B' R' L B' U2 F D F' L2 D2
I was a bit slow at the end, it could have been better, but I'll beat that 18.721 this year! (but maybe not before you improve it)
Previous PB was 19.511
Jason Green
Veteran
Awesome that was fast! I'm certainly not expecting to be doing too many of them yet, maybe racing each other will help!My turn!
19.088U' R2 B2 D B2 D2 R2 B2 D F2 U B' R' L B' U2 F D F' L2 D2
I was a bit slow at the end, it could have been better, but I'll beat that 18.721 this year! (but maybe not before you improve it)
Previous PB was 19.511
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Isaac Lai
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Mind you, Tim Wong and Vincent Sheu use pretty much pure CFOP/FreeFOP. The trick is to block build, then fish for skips (you might not always get lucky though)
h2f
Premium Member
3bld from last competiotion: 2:17.25. Memo was awfull - two breakings in 3cycle, 7 pairs = 14 targets. I was so nervous. When I put the cube I thought I must touch timer again to start timer, like in normal solve. And I forgot how to do UBL - UFR - DBL. Finally did it with OP, but lost around 15 seconds. Knowing this I think it's a quite good solve.
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JanW
Veteran
Nice solve h2f! Do you mean LDB or RDB when you say UDB?
I'd just like to say that bld is hard... Got a lucky success last week, but haven't been able to repeat it since. At first I mostly ended up with cubes that looked just as scrambled as when I started, must have done some mistake with setup moves during edges. When it wasn't a total mess, I usually had corners correct, but some edges off, indicating that edges was indeed the weak point. I reviewed my edge technique and came up with an improvement for recognition. Now I don't need to think at all about any clockwise/counterclockwise directions for the interchange move, all moves are derived directly from the pattern of the 3-cycle on the cube. This improved both execution speed and accuracy a lot.
Last 3 attempts I did flawless execution of my memo, but in all 3 I had memo mistakes. Once I missed a flipped edge, the second I somehow missed an entire cycle of edge memo and stopped at the second cycle break, when there was still 3 edge pieces that I hadn't solved. Third time I memorized the letter for the wrong side of one edge piece. Right now memo also takes way longer than execution. Need to work on that, learn my letter scheme better and make a word list for my letter pairs.
I'd just like to say that bld is hard... Got a lucky success last week, but haven't been able to repeat it since. At first I mostly ended up with cubes that looked just as scrambled as when I started, must have done some mistake with setup moves during edges. When it wasn't a total mess, I usually had corners correct, but some edges off, indicating that edges was indeed the weak point. I reviewed my edge technique and came up with an improvement for recognition. Now I don't need to think at all about any clockwise/counterclockwise directions for the interchange move, all moves are derived directly from the pattern of the 3-cycle on the cube. This improved both execution speed and accuracy a lot.
Last 3 attempts I did flawless execution of my memo, but in all 3 I had memo mistakes. Once I missed a flipped edge, the second I somehow missed an entire cycle of edge memo and stopped at the second cycle break, when there was still 3 edge pieces that I hadn't solved. Third time I memorized the letter for the wrong side of one edge piece. Right now memo also takes way longer than execution. Need to work on that, learn my letter scheme better and make a word list for my letter pairs.
h2f
Premium Member
Thanks. Fixed. I mean UBL - UFR - DBL. One of not friendly cases. I had it only few times. Last time on Nats and I did also with OP. I figured out than it can be done very easeliy - R2 U': [U' R2 U, L2] - but forgot about it.
JanW
Veteran
Why R2 instead of R' U': [U' R U, L2]? Another option without setup moves would be [L2 D' L2 D L2, U2], but that's maybe not the most comfortable direction to do that alg.
h2f
Premium Member
Oh yes. You right. With R' it makes one of cases I like. Thanks, I didnt notice it. And this trick with L2 i know for right hand and U/U2 but I dont like
mafergut
Legend
Impressive that with all the nervousness and indecision you still managed to solve it in not much more than 2 minutes. What's your (non-official) PB single?
By the way, lubed, tensioned and stickered my Dayan 2x2. It is not much better than it was. 6.01 Ao50, still not sub-6, improved a bit my Ao100 PB down to 6.11.
h2f
Premium Member
Thanks. My PB is 1:17.2 but with 3style/M2. With 3style/Turbo i got 1:25 or something like that.
muchacho
Veteran
Mine improved with... a LOT of solves.
mafergut
Legend
The latest running session goes beyong 800. I must have put like 3-4 thousand solves on it. I assume that, for a 2x2, a LOT of solves is more like 20.000 and up
I will have to tighten it more, though, as in like 150 solves today since I lubed it, I've had like 5 mega-pops, the last one was more than half the pieces
muchacho
Veteran
For a LOT I meant the 7000 or so that I've done with it, 3-4 thousands should be enough. Have you tried another Dayan? Maybe that one is defective.
Mine doesn't pop (well, maybe once every 1000).
Attached photo of how tight is it.
Mine doesn't pop (well, maybe once every 1000).
Attached photo of how tight is it.
muchacho
Veteran
I'm creating a (web) CMLL trainer, could someone please check if it working and if it's of any use?
http://alejos.org/cmll-trainer.php
In http://alejos.org/cmll-trainer-settings.php you select the algs you want to practice and the color scheme and possible cube orientations.
It uses the space bar to start/stop the timer and go to the next scramble.
It doesn't work on mobile devices for now.
http://alejos.org/cmll-trainer.php
In http://alejos.org/cmll-trainer-settings.php you select the algs you want to practice and the color scheme and possible cube orientations.
It uses the space bar to start/stop the timer and go to the next scramble.
It doesn't work on mobile devices for now.
Sergeant Baboon
Regular
I like that I can change the color scheme and set the orientations I can solve in, that's really cool.
It seems to default to having none of the CMLL cases checked. I didn't realize this at first, so I was a bit confused that the scramble I was getting was solving the cube, haha. It might be nice to default to have all of them checked.
Really nice program otherwise! It's made me realize how slow my CMLL is though... maybe with this I'll finally get around to learning full CMLL
muchacho
Veteran
Thanks, I'll change it to all CMLLs checked by default, sorry about that
I know only half of CMLL cases myself, hope this tool helps me too.
I know only half of CMLL cases myself, hope this tool helps me too.
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