mafergut
Legend
Yeah, but as this case is just the regular OLL that most people would use for 2x2 LBL or Ortega, for the untrained eye it doesn't look like a CLL solve, hehehe.
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Yeah, but as this case is just the regular OLL that most people would use for 2x2 LBL or Ortega, for the untrained eye it doesn't look like a CLL solve, hehehe.
muchacho
Veteran
It would take me like 1 minute to build a layer, I think instead of trying to learn to do that I would prefer memorizing EG-1 and EG-2 and then CLL.
EvilGnome6
Premium Member
Sometimes I think about learning EG so I can just build a side and then I remember that I don't really like 2x2 very much.
mafergut
Legend
Yeah, that's exactly what I think. It's like 42 x 3 algs to learn full CLL+EG-1+EG-2 or at least 42 x 2 + get the grasp of how to use anti-CLL to cover for EG-2 or make sure you have at least a bar in the face so that you don't need EG-2 at all. Too many algs and too much hassle for an event I don't practice that much and probably effort better spent in learning COLL + some VHLS, etc. to improve my game at 3x3. COLL is identical amount of cases as CLL and I can apply it at OH and, in theory, those could be applied to 2x2 as well as a "less efficient" CLL for when I solve with Ortega and the easier face is a layer
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Lid
Veteran
At your speed I suggest you just go with Ortega. Myself use CLL and Ortega as base + some EG-1 (like half).
mafergut
Legend
So, if you can do an easy layer you do CLL and if you can do a face with a bar you either use EG-1 and if you don't know the case just OLL + PBL? That's a progressive approach that could work for somebody that has no rush in learning the full EG- sets
EDIT: Best time I get in a while.
12.99 PLL skip but I cannot reconstruct. Nice crosses in both white and yellow, so I am not sure what color I chose.
Scramble: D B2 L2 D2 F' R B2 R2 B' R L2 F2 D B2 L2 D2 F2 U' B2 L2 F2
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EvilGnome6
Premium Member
Anthony Brooks is coming to the competition I'm organizing next month. I'll ask him what he recommends as a progressive step from Ortega or CLL.
Jason Green
Veteran
That's cool, I got to see him at a competition in Dallas (he won - 3x3 at least not sure what else). That was just a few weeks after I got back into cubing in July, and I did not even consider participating really. I definitely will next time I get a chance!
EvilGnome6
Premium Member
I met him at a competition in San Antonio a few months ago. He was super nice. He judged one of my 2x2 solves and gave me some pointers on memorizing algorithms after I screwed up my solve.
Lid
Veteran
Blue cross is pretty nice to: (didn't time it thou)
x y2 L D L' D R2 U L2 // cross (8/8)
R U R' U2 F U F' // 1st (7/15)
d' R' U' R // 2nd (4/19)
R U' R' U R U' R' // 3rd (7/26)
y' R U2 R' U' R U R' // 4th (7/33)
U2 (R U R' U R U2 R') U' (R U2 R' U' R U' R') U2 // 2GLL (17/50) (= U2 Sune U' AntiSune U2)
Logiqx
Veteran
I have records going back to when I was averaging ~2:40. However, I only recorded the best single and session mean for the first ~240 solves.
I started recording Ao12 after ~240 solves (sub-60 averages) and started recording Ao50 after ~600 solves (sub-45 averages).
Ao12 chart -
Ao50 chart -
The regression at around 16,000 solves was due to a 3 month break from the 3x3 and CFOP. I don't recommend that much time off if you want to improve.
Jason Green
Veteran
I have records going back to when I was averaging ~2:40. However, I only recorded the best single and session mean for the first ~240 solves.
I started recording Ao12 after ~240 solves (sub-60 averages) and started recording Ao50 after ~600 solves (sub-45 averages).
Ao12 chart - View attachment 5568
Ao50 chart - View attachment 5569
The regression at around 16,000 solves was due to a 3 month break from the 3x3 and CFOP. I don't recommend that much time off if you want to improve.
That's pretty cool. I was thinking in terms of a timeline, but this is probably more useful because it depends on how much each day you are practicing.
I do a lot of practice with my Android timer on my phone, and I just periodically export the times and erase them. It does not even keep AO5 or 12, just a global average. I was thinking some time I might graph every single solve over time. So far all the sessions I've ever done on CSTimer.net I have also.
Logiqx
Veteran
I've done a variety of charts with my data but the ones above update every time I add a line into Excel.
I record the data+time, number of solves, single, Ao5, Ao12, Ao50, Ao100, session avg+stdev and a short comment.
It takes me less than a minute to record a session and it's nice to be able to look back!
muchacho
Veteran
Exported from Prisma Puzzle Timer to "Excel" (libreoffice). It looks a bit messy, I'll try to make it an ao50 or something like that.
And removing the first solves:
The peaks are me trying new sticker colors.
And removing the first solves:
The peaks are me trying new sticker colors.
Logiqx
Veteran
That's a cool insight into the rapid improvement whilst you're getting familiar with the cube!
If you have Excel you can use something like TRIMMEAN(A1:A50,6/50) to get an Ao50 (i.e. discard fastest 3 and slowest 3).
Other values for the "percent" parameter - 2/5 (Ao5), 2/12 (Ao12), 10/100 (Ao100)
mark49152
Premium Member
That's a great tip. How come I never found that function before?!
Logiqx
Veteran
The TRIMMEAN function was built for cubers. It's a great way to calculate rolling averages.
muchacho
Veteran
Thanks! :tu
And TRIMEAN also exists in libreoffice!
Rolling Ao50:
And TRIMEAN also exists in libreoffice!
Rolling Ao50:
Jason Green
Veteran
Much cleaner!
cubesp
Regular
ok.
That is my first official 3x3x3. Not the best nor the worst of the competition, so exactly my time know.
Suggestions are welcome !!!
[video]https://youtu.be/ZeqwgWGLgT4[/video]
cross is terrible !!!
That is my first official 3x3x3. Not the best nor the worst of the competition, so exactly my time know.
Suggestions are welcome !!!
[video]https://youtu.be/ZeqwgWGLgT4[/video]
cross is terrible !!!
