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[PenguinsDontFly]

I still dont know what i want to use between roux and cfop. I might learn zz.

when in doubt, use the tdm method.

 

[NeilH]

when in doubt, use the tdm method.

Boyyyyyyyyyy no wayyy. But srsly, do you ever solve 5x5+? If so, what method do you use? I would use Roux full time for 3x3, but bigkewbisbae and roux sucks on bigkewb.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Boyyyyyyyyyy no wayyy. But srsly, do you ever solve 5x5+? If so, what method do you use? I would use Roux full time for 3x3, but bigkewbisbae and roux sucks on bigkewb.

I dont have 5x5 plus. I do 4x4 and use roux, and average ~48. 5x5+ gets harder though. you could still use cfop on big cubes and for OH too, even ZZ for OH lol. example adam attia: 3x3 roux, 4x4 yau, OH ZZ. also neil morales but idk what he does for 4x4.

 

[NeilH]

I dont have 5x5 plus. I do 4x4 and use roux, and average ~48. 5x5+ gets harder though. you could still use cfop on big cubes and for OH too, even ZZ for OH lol. example adam attia: 3x3 roux, 4x4 yau, OH ZZ. also neil morales but idk what he does for 4x4.

My brain soiduhfalkjfv;soerngo[ianoiaef. But anyway, I'll learn ZZ and see how that goes.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

My brain soiduhfalkjfv;soerngo[ianoiaef. But anyway, I'll learn ZZ and see how that goes.

lol yeah adam is a little wonky.

 

[OLLiver]

"NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE THERE ARE NO LIMITS!" -WISE WORDS FROM Chris Tran AKA Lord ZB.

 

[timeless]

chris, when are you going to post that zbll memo system tutorial you mentioned in the other thread?

 

[IAmAPerson]

I'm considering switching from the CFOP method to the ZB method. I already know all of VHLS except for 3 algs, so I have a head start as far as ZBLS goes. ZBLL would still be hell though.

 

[NeilH]

I'm considering switching from the CFOP method to the ZB method. I already know all of VHLS except for 3 algs, so I have a head start as far as ZBLS goes. ZBLL would still be hell though.

Just wondering, have you tried Roux/ZZ/Petrus. ZB is kind of similar to CFOP, so if not, you might want to try out those methods to see if you like them.

 

[TDM]

when in doubt, use the tdm method.

wat

Boyyyyyyyyyy no wayyy. But srsly, do you ever solve 5x5+? If so, what method do you use? I would use Roux full time for 3x3, but bigkewbisbae and roux sucks on bigkewb.

I don't think many Roux users use Roux on bigcubes. It's not that slow to use CFOP on bigcubes even if you use Roux on 3x3, since 3x3 is such a small part of the entire solve. 3x3 can be quite a large part of 4x4 though (maybe a third of the solve), but since Roux is still easy to do reasonably quickly on 4x4 that's not an issue.

 

[irontwig]

"Semi-algs" seems like a really useful concept, especially if there's a systematic way to use them. Maybe algs could be generated with a program similair to than one for Kir-LL or Petrus 270.

 

[IAmAPerson]

Just wondering, have you tried Roux/ZZ/Petrus. ZB is kind of similar to CFOP, so if not, you might want to try out those methods to see if you like them.

I have actually mained in all of those methods at one point. Reasons I never stuck with them:

Petrus: Blockbuilding
Roux: Blockbuilding
ZZ: Blockbuilding

 

[joshsailscga]

I have actually mained in all of those methods at one point. Reasons I never stuck with them:

Petrus: Blockbuilding
Roux: Blockbuilding
ZZ: Blockbuilding

I didn't think ZZ had any blockbuilding?

 

[Bindedsa]

I didn't think ZZ had any blockbuilding?

It's the reason it's so efficient.

 

[IAmAPerson]

It's the reason it's so efficient.

Yea, whenever I solve ZZ, I always out of habit solve EOCross and do CFOP-style F2L.

 

[TDM]

Yea, whenever I solve ZZ, I always out of habit solve EOCross and do CFOP-style F2L.

This makes your F2L less efficient. I would avoid doing it unless the cross is only a couple of moves more than a line.

 

[IAmAPerson]

This makes your F2L less efficient. I would avoid doing it unless the cross is only a couple of moves more than a line.

That's why I solve CFOP.

 

[timeless]

Yea, whenever I solve ZZ, I always out of habit solve EOCross and do CFOP-style F2L.

same here