Older cubers discussions

[Logiqx]

I have made a handy Roux short cut document for the hard second block cases:

Check it out here.

I started doing the same thing earlier this week... adapting my F2L notes. I won't guarantee this is free of typos since it is still WIP.

http://mikeg.me.uk/cubing/Roux/F2B.zip

The other groups of cases (i.e. edge / corner in slot) haven't been updated yet. I've just scribbled down my F2B algs on the F2L printouts.

 

[Logiqx]

Yeah, but I think using r instead of R is easier for the grip. Don't have to think about changing from normal to wide turns.

I agree about the grip. I'm slightly torn between writing algs in their pure form or execution form in the cases where I use r instead of R.

 

[h2f]

though i did present this alg, the cfop way is a little easier for me: R' U' R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R

I posted it without reading your post, becasue I was on mobile. But agree - I think CFOP way is better.

 

[MarcelP]

I started doing the same thing earlier this week... adapting my F2L notes. I won't guarantee this is free of typos since it is still WIP.

http://mikeg.me.uk/cubing/Roux/F2B.zip

The other groups of cases (i.e. edge / corner in slot) haven't been updated yet. I've just scribbled down my F2B algs on the F2L printouts.

I can not open the Word document in the zip?

 

[Logiqx]

Weird. Office 2008 format.

I am out today but I'll check it tonight if you still have trouble.

 

[MarcelP]

case 10: r' U2 r U (M r) U' R

case 10: r' U2 r U (M r') U' R

 

[MarcelP]

Weird. Office 2008 format.

I am out today but I'll check it tonight if you still have trouble.

Ah that explains it. I have Office 2007 I can open it with Google on line (after I mailed it to my gmail account). Awesome stuff man! Can I add you cases to my file? I share my file at the Roux facebook group.

EDIT: Oh man. this clearly shows how certain cases are being done the right way. Many of these cases I still do slightly different (but less efficient)

Like

case 10: U (M’ U’ M2) (r U R’) (yours)

mine: U' M U' M2 U2 Rw U Rw''


Case 9: M’ U M’ r U’ R’ Nice!

 

[Logiqx]

Sure. Good to share.

 

[MarcelP]

I did an Ao5 today with normal Fridrich.. Man, looking ahead is soooo easy after doing nothing but Roux.. I finished of with:

5. 14.61 R L U R' F B' R D U R F2 U L' D F2 R L D' R2 B D2 R U L U2

x2 y2// inspection
R' F D2 L' // cross (4)
y R U' R' // 1 F2L (4)
y U R U' R' // 2 F2L (5)
y U2 R U' R' U2 R U' R' // 3 F2L (9)
U' R' U2 R U2 R' U R // 4 F2L (8)
R U R' U' r R' U R U' r' // OLL (10)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // Y-PERM (11)

51 Moves is only 3.5 TPS

 

[Rocky0701]

I did an Ao5 today with normal Fridrich.. Man, looking ahead is soooo easy after doing nothing but Roux.. I finished of with:

5. 14.61 R L U R' F B' R D U R F2 U L' D F2 R L D' R2 B D2 R U L U2

x2 y2// inspection
R' F D2 L' // cross (4)
y R U' R' // 1 F2L (4)
y U R U' R' // 2 F2L (5)
y U2 R U' R' U2 R U' R' // 3 F2L (9)
U' R' U2 R U2 R' U R // 4 F2L (8)
R U R' U' r R' U R U' r' // OLL (10)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // Y-PERM (11)

51 Moves is only 3.5 TPS

Nice! Are you going to fully switch to roux, or just do both? I think it's awesome that you're doing roux, but I don't think you should let you CFOP go bad either. If you just did an ao12 a week of CFOP you wouldn't improve, but at least it wouldn't get worse and you would maintain your speed.

 

[MarcelP]

Nice! Are you going to fully switch to roux, or just do both? I think it's awesome that you're doing roux, but I don't think you should let you CFOP go bad either. If you just did an ao12 a week of CFOP you wouldn't improve, but at least it wouldn't get worse and you would maintain your speed.

Well, my focus is Roux now. If I can get sub 30 in reasonable time and maybe get my CFOP times within 6 months or so I might stick with Roux. I would use CFOP only for big cubes then. It seems a lot of waste learning 57 OLL's and 21 PLL's and not using them he? LOL.... If it turns out I can not get below 30 seconds or so I will go back to CFOP. Right now I am a bit bored with CFOP. And doing something new like finding out all the hard 2nd block cases really makes me enjoy cubing a lot.

 

[MarcelP]

I started doing the same thing earlier this week... adapting my F2L notes. I won't guarantee this is free of typos since it is still WIP.

http://mikeg.me.uk/cubing/Roux/F2B.zip

The other groups of cases (i.e. edge / corner in slot) haven't been updated yet. I've just scribbled down my F2B algs on the F2L printouts.

some feedback

for 9: M2 U ....
for 13: U2 M2 U' ....
for 11: U' M2 U2 ....
for 8: r U2 M2 U' r'
for 12: r U2 M2 U2 M' U' r'
for 10: U' R' U R U R U R'
for 14: U' R U' R U R U R'

 

[Rocky0701]

Well, my focus is Roux now. If I can get sub 30 in reasonable time and maybe get my CFOP times within 6 months or so I might stick with Roux. I would use CFOP only for big cubes then. It seems a lot of waste learning 57 OLL's and 21 PLL's and not using them he? LOL.... If it turns out I can not get below 30 seconds or so I will go back to CFOP. Right now I am a bit bored with CFOP. And doing something new like finding out all the hard 2nd block cases really makes me enjoy cubing a lot.

Ok, so you haven't fully gone to the dark side yet. Haha, JK roux is awesome. My main focus now is 6x6 because I just got my first one a couple of days ago. I have only done about 10 solves, but my PB is 5:05

 

[mark49152]

51 Moves is only 3.5 TPS

Nice solve - but it's 57 moves. That Y perm is 17. You're not as slow as you think

 

[MarcelP]

Nice solve - but it's 57 moves. That Y perm is 17. You're not as slow as you think

LOL.. When I copied the alg from the wiki (to lazy to do it with reconstruct) I saw 14 moves some where. I should have checked

Ok, so you haven't fully gone to the dark side yet. Haha, JK roux is awesome. My main focus now is 6x6 because I just got my first one a couple of days ago. I have only done about 10 solves, but my PB is 5:05

Nice!! I take half an hour on 6X6

Edit: By the way, I also normally use the same colour scheme (blue on left, white on bottom) that you do but I think I should change this before I get set on one colour. CN is easier when you're slower. I've tried various things and I think I might be able to do anything without too much difficulty as long as white or yellow is on the bottom. That might leave too many blocks to choose from though. So either I would cut down by only have blue/green on left/right or only doing white on bottom instead of yellow. Roux has so many options...

I started Yellow/White neutral today and it worked out just fine. No problems with fixing bad egdes. Also, I can start with any color as left block now. My times improved with 2 seconds in a matter of 3 days

 

[h2f]

I started Yellow/White neutral today and it worked out just fine. No problems with fixing bad egdes. Also, I can start with any color as left block now. My times improved with 2 seconds in a matter of 3 days

I've started with x2/y2 neutral but it was too hard, so I did only y2 neutral. Sometimes I do x2 neutral and it's quite easy. I think this week i will do x2/y2 neutral. They said in Roux thread that it's enough to be neutral this way. And many thanks for making documents for you and Logiqx.

 

[GuRoux]

I've started with x2/y2 neutral but it was too hard, so I did only y2 neutral. Sometimes I do x2 neutral and it's quite easy. I think this week i will do x2/y2 neutral. They said in Roux thread that it's enough to be neutral this way. And many thanks for making documents for you and Logiqx.

i'm also y2 neutral. i'm going to start trying to be x2y2 too, or at least good enough at it to use it about 20% of the time.

 

[sneaklyfox]

some feedback
for 12: r U2 M2 U2 M' U' r'

for 12: R U2 M2 U R'

 

[Logiqx]

some feedback

for 9: M2 U ....
for 13: U2 M2 U' ....
for 11: U' M2 U2 ....
for 8: r U2 M2 U' r'
for 12: r U2 M2 U2 M' U' r'
for 10: U' R' U R U R U R'
for 14: U' R U' R U R U R'

Finally... a chance to look at your cases and figure out the typos.

9, 13, 11 - how did I miss those... thanks!
8 - nice find, thanks
12 - should be r U2 M2 U2 M U r', potentially longer than my solution if the U2 can be skipped?
10 - should be U' R U R' U R U R', I think this is my natural CFOP instinct
14 - should be U' R U' R' U R U R', ditto

I've updated my document. Let me know if you find any other optimisations.

 

[Logiqx]

I decided to find the Facebook group you mentioned a while back.