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Too fast, dude...
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This thread is popular haha, 22 posts in the past 6 hours, and 40 something in the past day.
I got 2.25 in hand BLD. My success rate was like 4/5. If it would've been non blind I bet it would be sub 2. That was pretty fun!
number of times: 50/50
best time: 1.058
worst time: 4.491
current mo3: 2.047 (σ = 0.21)
best mo3: 1.552 (σ = 0.82)
current avg5: 2.047 (σ = 0.21)
best avg5: 1.745 (σ = 0.47)
current avg12: 2.104 (σ = 0.35)
best avg12: 2.082 (σ = 0.35)
current avg50: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
best avg50: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
session avg: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
session mean: 2.278
I got 2.25 in hand BLD. My success rate was like 4/5. If it would've been non blind I bet it would be sub 2. That was pretty fun!
number of times: 50/50
best time: 1.058
worst time: 4.491
current mo3: 2.047 (σ = 0.21)
best mo3: 1.552 (σ = 0.82)
current avg5: 2.047 (σ = 0.21)
best avg5: 1.745 (σ = 0.47)
current avg12: 2.104 (σ = 0.35)
best avg12: 2.082 (σ = 0.35)
current avg50: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
best avg50: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
session avg: 2.253 (σ = 0.50)
session mean: 2.278
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I didn't notice it at the time but the rolling Ao50 went from 20.33 to 20.02 between solve 50 and 58. My previous PB for the Ao50 was set about 2 weeks ago and was 20.60.
My previous Ao100 was 21.10 so it was a nice improvement despite my last 30 solves being poor... either I was getting tired or the fading light was having an effect!
I need to draw up a nice cheat sheet at the very least. I try to keep a nice record of my alg sets but I've neglected 2x2x2.
Most of my 2x2x2 algs are listed on Chris Olson's website. Many of the OCLL algs can also be used during 2-look CMLL as well, excluding the H case.
Damn.... I haven't done any Roux for a couple of weeks. Too little spare time and too many cubing challenges!
It's the forum equivalent of a coffee shop in Amsterdam. Everyone is chilled out and there is hardly ever any trouble.
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Lol. So you are saying that we are all high and mellowed out?It's the forum equivalent of a coffee shop in Amsterdam. Everyone is chilled out and there is hardly ever any trouble.
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I've made my cheat sheet. I'm too lazy to do a video right now! Download - Ortega.zip
I try to predict the first layer permutation during inspection (occasionally the OCLL as well) and aim to put a bar at the back.
I know a couple more algs for the most common PBL case but the one I've listed seems fastest for me.
Lol. So you are saying that we are all high and mellowed out?
Maybe not high but right now it is beer o' clock and that will mellow me out.
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I made a slight tweak... PBL cases marked with an asterisk have now been moved to the right hand side.
Let me know your thoughts.
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Suggestions for other algs:
Sune:
[y] L' U2 L U L' U L
[y2] L U L' U L U2 L'
Antisune:
[y2] L' U' L U' L' U2 L
[y'] L U2 L' U' L U' L'
Adjacent swaps:
R2 U' B2 U2 R2 U' R2
[y2] R2 U' R2 U2 F2 U' R2
Adjacent top, diagonal bottom:
L F' R U2 R' U L' (looks weird with the L/R moves etc. but I can sub-0.5 it easily, sub-0.4 sometimes)
Adjacent swap on top:
R' F R F' R U2 R' U R U2 R'
[y] L F' R U2 R' U R U2 R2
[y2] L R U2 R' F' R U2 R' U L'
[y'] L R U2 R2 F R F' R U2 R' U L'
Adjacent swap on bottom:
x' R2 F R F' R U2' R' U R U2
R2 U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2
[y2] x U2 R' F' R U2 R' U L' U' R2
Diagonal swaps:
R2 B2 R2 (to avoid a regrip)
(I know too many PBLs/OLLs and not enough CLLs... this isn't even everything)
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Thanks for the suggestions. I know some of them already (or at least come across them before) but some of the algs are completely new to me. I'm allergic to left handed Sune so I limit myself to the two RU options. I'd only just added R2 B2 R2 to my copy of the document prior to your reply!
Have you tried my adjacent swap on the bottom? If you like the alg it is derived from (R U’ R’ U’ R’ F2 U’ R U R) you may well like how it flows and it doesn't contain any rotations.
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But left handed sune is the best...
I have, and I love it. There are other algs I use that I didn't post just because you already had them.
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But left handed sune is the best...
Are you left or right handed? I used the lefty Sune(s) during my early stages of cubing but I never managed to get them as fast as my right hand. I still use them for non-speed purposes.
That's cool. I was quite pleased when I worked it out for myself... despite it being a simple R2 F2 R2 tweak for another case.
Thanks for taking the time to give me some new algs. I've filed them safely with all of the PBL info I've collated.
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I have been home from school yesterday and today because I have a fever, but I still cube while laying in bed. I just did 150 solves to finish up my first ao100. Broke all of my PBs including single
Wow, beating PBs while sick. Crazy.
I haven't done cross training in forever. You guys are actually quite fast. I don't know if I would be much faster...
1.53 Ao12 Not that much faster. Only one sub-1 cross.
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I don't feel that sick, but had a 100° fever yesterday and today. I should be able to go to school tomorrow though. You should do a BLD cross ao50!
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Done. BLD cross Ao50 = 1.77. 6 sub-1.5, no sub-1. I think my sighted crosses are faster. Or maybe I'm getting tired now.
Edit: Were we supposed to measure success rate too? I got them all except one which I deleted. The last move was supposed to be L2 but I did L' only. I think it was a sensory accident. Inspection takes 3-8 seconds.
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Great - so that we're comparing fairly, here's my personal rules for cross training.
Take as much inspection time as you want. Then solve it eyes closed. Start and stop timer one-handed holding the cube (I use my phone). If the cross isn't properly solved, delete the time - unless it is just out by a D, D' or D2. If that is that case, count the time as long as you did some D move at the end but got it wrong - if you didn't do any D move, delete the time. Keep going until you have 50 successes
Edit: and stick to the same cross colour so that you don't get the advantage of colour neutral easy crosses!
Of course this depends on giving every cross my best shot - sometimes it might be tempting to not try so hard on a difficult cross so that the time gets deleted, but what's the point in distorting my own progress?
The idea is to measure how fast I am solving cross when successful, not to measure my blind success rate. Strangely I am faster blind than with eyes open.
Typically I get between 1 and 3.5 seconds. More than 3.5 and I've usually lost the plot and screwed up the cross anyway. My success rate is pretty good these days - maybe one failure per 7-8 attempts.
This is how I made my cross+1 as good as it is now. I had 90/100 at one point.
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I'm right handed... my left handed sunes aren't as fast, but L U L' U L U2 L' was faster than my normal sune (on 3x3) for a while before I learned how to fingertrick it. I can now sub-0.5 normal sune on a 3x3, but I haven't timed left handed ones and don't have a working stackmat.Are you left or right handed? I used the lefty Sune(s) during my early stages of cubing but I never managed to get them as fast as my right hand. I still use them for non-speed purposes.
That's cool. I was quite pleased when I worked it out for myself... despite it being a simple R2 F2 R2 tweak for another case.
Thanks for taking the time to give me some new algs. I've filed them safely with all of the PBL info I've collated.
A lot of my PBLs are R2 F2 F2 then an alg or the other way round too. Three of my four adj swap on U algs are R2 B2 R2 and my diag-adj swap alg.
It didn't really take that much time; I just copied and pasted them over from my own document
(well it's a website but it's so far from being finished that I wasn't going to show anyone it yet. I stopped working on it months ago, but I keep my algs up to date so I can access them from anywhere. There are some that are on there that I still haven't learned).
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I don't measure success rate. I know if I'm having a good or bad day and that's enough
. See my long post that Kennan quoted above - I delete times where the cross is not solved unless it's only out by a D move. The logic behind that is questionable but that's what I started doing and I don't want to change my metric now and distort my record of progress. I probably get a misaligned D every 8-10 solves or so.Ao50 of 1.77 with only six sub-1.5 suggests that your times were very consistent. How many sup-2s did you have?
Edit: in my ao50 = 1.97 there were 11 sub-1.5 and two sup-3. Range was 1.07-3.35 and stddev 0.48.
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Oh, I didn't know we were supposed to align the D layer, I just consider that part of F2L.
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I think my times were fairly consistent, yeah. I had 6 sup-2 times, the worst being 2.37. Stddev 0.2
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That is rather quick! Nice.. And yeah, sighted must be faster.
How fast is your cross + 1 now?
Today in my earlybird training session I was on fire. With cold hands and bad lights I did an Ao50 with no white and no yellow crosses:
Generated By csTimer on 2014-11-7
solves/total: 50/50
single
best: 14.18
worst: 28.06
mean of 3
current: 21.86 (σ = 2.35)
best: 17.07 (σ = 2.54)
avg of 5
current: 20.45 (σ = 1.73)
best: 17.59 (σ = 1.65)
avg of 12
current: 20.36 (σ = 2.45)
best: 19.72 (σ = 1.63)
avg of 50
current: 20.87 (σ = 2.24)
best: 20.87 (σ = 2.24)
Too high stddev.. but hey.. I do not complain
14+: 2
16+: 5
18+: 14
20+: 13
22+: 9
24+: 5
26+: 1
28+: 1
solves/total: 50/50
single
best: 14.18
worst: 28.06
mean of 3
current: 21.86 (σ = 2.35)
best: 17.07 (σ = 2.54)
avg of 5
current: 20.45 (σ = 1.73)
best: 17.59 (σ = 1.65)
avg of 12
current: 20.36 (σ = 2.45)
best: 19.72 (σ = 1.63)
avg of 50
current: 20.87 (σ = 2.24)
best: 20.87 (σ = 2.24)
Too high stddev.. but hey.. I do not complain
14+: 2
16+: 5
18+: 14
20+: 13
22+: 9
24+: 5
26+: 1
28+: 1
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My speed is somewhat returning
[video=youtube_share;4Rb3C4peNNY]http://youtu.be/4Rb3C4peNNY[/video]
Generated By csTimer on 2014-11-7
solves/total: 5/5
single
best: 16.81
worst: 20.67
mean of 3
current: 18.85 (σ = 1.94)
best: 18.03 (σ = 1.14)
avg of 5
current: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
best: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
Average: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
Mean: 18.93
Time List:
1. 19.88 R' L D2 F2 D2 F L' D2 L U2 F2 U2 R2 U2 D' F2 B2 U R2 B2
2. 18.21 B2 U2 F' L2 F' D2 F D2 U2 F2 R2 D F2 L F R' D' B2 R2 B' U'
3. 19.06 L' F L' F' U2 R' B2 R' L2 B2 U F2 U' F2 U R2 U D2 R2
4. 16.81 B L2 R2 U2 B F U2 L2 B' L2 R' D' F2 L' U R2 B2 D B R'
5. 20.67 U' L2 U F U B2 R2 F L' B R2 D L2 U' R2 U F2 D F2 U'
solves/total: 5/5
single
best: 16.81
worst: 20.67
mean of 3
current: 18.85 (σ = 1.94)
best: 18.03 (σ = 1.14)
avg of 5
current: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
best: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
Average: 19.05 (σ = 0.84)
Mean: 18.93
Time List:
1. 19.88 R' L D2 F2 D2 F L' D2 L U2 F2 U2 R2 U2 D' F2 B2 U R2 B2
2. 18.21 B2 U2 F' L2 F' D2 F D2 U2 F2 R2 D F2 L F R' D' B2 R2 B' U'
3. 19.06 L' F L' F' U2 R' B2 R' L2 B2 U F2 U' F2 U R2 U D2 R2
4. 16.81 B L2 R2 U2 B F U2 L2 B' L2 R' D' F2 L' U R2 B2 D B R'
5. 20.67 U' L2 U F U B2 R2 F L' B R2 D L2 U' R2 U F2 D F2 U'
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