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[TDM]

I wish someone would make an instruction video of that

I'll see what I can do, but I've never done a tutorial before, so it'll probably suck. However, I can't just avoid making video tutorials forever...

 

[MarcelP]

Yes please!

 

[sk8erman41]

love seeing all the progress in this thread. Heres today's Ao50

Spoiler: full results

Generated By csTimer on 2014-10-14
solves/total: 50/50

single
best: 15.90
worst: 30.50

mean of 3
current: 18.12 (σ = 1.55)
best: 18.12 (σ = 1.55)

avg of 5
current: 18.73 (σ = 0.96)
best: 18.64 (σ = 0.22)

avg of 12
current: 20.72 (σ = 2.95)
best: 20.09 (σ = 1.61)

avg of 50
current: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)
best: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)

Average: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)
Mean: 21.22

Time List:
1. 20.46 D2 L' F2 R' B2 L F2 R2 U2 R B2 D' U' R' F' R B' L' D2 B2 F
2. 20.39 B' L2 U R' L' D' F2 L2 F' R F' R2 D2 B2 R2 D2 R2 F U2 F2 L2
3. 18.91 B L2 F2 R2 F' U2 L2 R2 U2 R2 F R U2 B' R' U L' F2 L2 D' F
4. 25.08 F L' D' F' U' F L2 F' R' B' L2 D2 B2 R2 U F2 R2 F2 U' B2 D
5. 24.21 L' B' R' L F' U2 B2 L2 B R' U' L2 U F2 U' R2 L2 B2 D' F2 R2
6. 15.90 L2 R2 B2 U2 R2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' R2 D F' R2 B2 R2 U2 F' R D' R'
7. 24.76 L2 D2 F2 L2 U2 B2 U' L2 D' F2 L2 B U L' U L' R B' D2 U' L
8. 24.91 L2 F2 D' B2 F2 D2 R2 U' R2 B2 D' B L' F2 L' U' B2 L' B2 U L2
9. 18.38 B D2 F' U2 L2 B' R2 D2 B2 U2 L' F' D2 B2 R' U L' U F2 D2
10. 18.78 U2 F2 U F2 U' R2 U' B2 U' F2 L' F R B U2 R U B' R
11. 18.75 D' L' B U2 D L F' B' L' B' L2 F2 L2 D2 B' R2 L2 F2 D2
12. 17.63 U2 F R2 D2 F L2 D2 F U2 L2 B' L B2 D B L R F D' B2
13. 22.92 B2 U R2 U2 B2 D' B2 R2 F2 R2 F2 R' D F R F D2 R' D B U
14. 21.61 B D2 L2 F2 L2 R2 D2 R2 U2 B' R D L' B2 R2 B' D' B2 R F'
15. 27.78 R' U2 L' F2 L' B2 U2 F2 L2 U2 F D B2 U F2 U' L B' R'
16. 30.50 U' F2 R' L' D2 B' U R F2 L' B U2 L' F2 D2 F2 R U2 R U2 R'
17. 17.39 B2 U2 R U2 L2 U2 L' B2 F2 U2 R' B D2 R' B L' B' D' F
18. 22.15 D R2 D' R2 F2 U F2 L2 D' L2 F2 L' D B R' D' B U F D F
19. 19.65 F R2 B R2 D2 F U2 B R2 B2 R' D F' L2 U B R B2 D' U'
20. 23.53 L B2 U2 B U' R L2 U2 B' R2 U' R2 L2 U' F2 D' L2 U D R2
21. 21.92 F2 U2 B U2 L2 F U2 F U2 F2 U2 R' D2 F D2 U' R2 F2 L2 U'
22. 18.94 U' L2 D' F2 U L2 R2 B2 U' F2 U F D' R2 D' U2 L' U2 R' D L
23. 20.01 B2 D' B2 L2 B2 U B2 D' F2 R2 D2 R' B R U2 F' D' R D2 F R'
24. 19.91 B' D2 U2 B' L2 B2 F D2 F2 U2 R2 D R U B D L2 R B' D' B2
25. 17.61 R2 F' D' B2 L' U' R' L B U' L2 U2 R2 F' D2 B' L2 F2 R2 D2 F
26. 24.92 B2 U' R2 B2 U2 R2 D' L2 D' R2 B2 F' L D2 U' B2 L' F' R U2 L2
27. 17.11 F2 D2 U' R2 B2 D B2 R2 U' L2 U' L' D' F' L B R B' R' U' R
28. 23.11 U2 R U2 R D2 R B2 U2 R' F2 D' B' R2 D' U' L B D' B F2
29. 19.51 D2 U2 L' U2 R' F2 R' D2 L' U2 F U L F2 R' U2 R2 B' F
30. 20.49 L2 R2 D2 B U2 F R2 D2 B D2 B L' U' R' B U2 R' D L' D2 L'
31. 20.97 L2 U2 L2 D2 B2 L2 B D2 L2 U2 L' D2 R D B2 L2 U L2 F U'
32. 21.84 U F2 R2 B2 U' R2 U F2 D B2 U2 F D' R' U L F L' U' B' D2
33. 18.53 R2 F2 U B2 D2 L2 U' L2 U2 F2 U F' R F D2 L' D' R' U2 F' R2
34. 27.01 B2 U2 R U F' L' D' B R2 F D' B2 L2 U' F2 R2 U' F2 B2 U F2
35. 22.06 F2 D2 L' R2 D2 R2 B2 R2 B2 R' F' U F' R2 F2 R B' L2 F2
36. 24.98 L2 F' R' F2 D' F2 B U B2 U B2 R' L2 B2 L2 F2 D2 F2 L' F2 B2
37. 20.35 B2 D L2 D' B2 F2 L2 U F2 U L2 R F2 D2 U B' D2 F L B' F
38. 16.83 R2 D2 R2 B' F2 L2 D2 U2 B F2 D' R2 U2 F L2 U' R F2 L' F' U'
39. 27.52 L2 U' R2 D2 B2 F2 D' B2 D R2 D B' F R' D U2 B' L' R F2 L'
40. 20.47 F L2 R2 U2 B' U2 F R2 F U' R' B F2 R2 D' U' B' D' F'
41. 17.53 U2 F R D L' U B' U R' B R2 L2 U2 R2 U2 B2 R2 U F2 U'
42. 25.53 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R' D2 R2 D2 B2 L U' F' R D2 L2 F' L D F' D2
43. 26.04 B' R2 U2 B' R2 F D2 B D2 U2 F2 D' R' D' L B' D' L' B L' U'
44. 19.56 U' F2 B R2 B2 U2 D R' B' R2 U2 L2 U L2 D2 F2 R2 U2 B2 R2
45. 20.04 B2 D U B2 L2 D R2 U L2 R2 D L' R U R2 U' B F U' L2
46. 18.53 U' B2 F2 L2 U' R2 U' L2 U2 F2 D2 L' B2 L2 B' F2 L' U' L2 B
47. 21.83 R D2 U2 R' D2 L F2 L' B2 F2 R' U' B' D2 R2 D B2 L' B' D2 B
48. 17.89 U2 R2 F D2 U2 R2 B L2 R2 U2 F2 R' B L' R2 F' U L' F2 D' R2
49. 16.70 R2 U R2 U2 F2 D' L2 F2 U F2 U' B F' U' L' F2 L R2 F' D2 F
50. 19.78 F2 U2 F' U2 F' D2 F' L2 B' D2 B' D R2 B' L2 D2 F2 L U' L'

Spoiler: distribution

14+: 1
16+: 8
18+: 12
20+: 12
22+: 5
24+: 7
26+: 4
28+: 0
30+: 1

 

[Rocky0701]

love seeing all the progress in this thread. Heres today's Ao50

Spoiler: full results

Generated By csTimer on 2014-10-14
solves/total: 50/50

single
best: 15.90
worst: 30.50

mean of 3
current: 18.12 (σ = 1.55)
best: 18.12 (σ = 1.55)

avg of 5
current: 18.73 (σ = 0.96)
best: 18.64 (σ = 0.22)

avg of 12
current: 20.72 (σ = 2.95)
best: 20.09 (σ = 1.61)

avg of 50
current: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)
best: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)

Average: 21.04 (σ = 2.69)
Mean: 21.22

Time List:
1. 20.46 D2 L' F2 R' B2 L F2 R2 U2 R B2 D' U' R' F' R B' L' D2 B2 F
2. 20.39 B' L2 U R' L' D' F2 L2 F' R F' R2 D2 B2 R2 D2 R2 F U2 F2 L2
3. 18.91 B L2 F2 R2 F' U2 L2 R2 U2 R2 F R U2 B' R' U L' F2 L2 D' F
4. 25.08 F L' D' F' U' F L2 F' R' B' L2 D2 B2 R2 U F2 R2 F2 U' B2 D
5. 24.21 L' B' R' L F' U2 B2 L2 B R' U' L2 U F2 U' R2 L2 B2 D' F2 R2
6. 15.90 L2 R2 B2 U2 R2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' R2 D F' R2 B2 R2 U2 F' R D' R'
7. 24.76 L2 D2 F2 L2 U2 B2 U' L2 D' F2 L2 B U L' U L' R B' D2 U' L
8. 24.91 L2 F2 D' B2 F2 D2 R2 U' R2 B2 D' B L' F2 L' U' B2 L' B2 U L2
9. 18.38 B D2 F' U2 L2 B' R2 D2 B2 U2 L' F' D2 B2 R' U L' U F2 D2
10. 18.78 U2 F2 U F2 U' R2 U' B2 U' F2 L' F R B U2 R U B' R
11. 18.75 D' L' B U2 D L F' B' L' B' L2 F2 L2 D2 B' R2 L2 F2 D2
12. 17.63 U2 F R2 D2 F L2 D2 F U2 L2 B' L B2 D B L R F D' B2
13. 22.92 B2 U R2 U2 B2 D' B2 R2 F2 R2 F2 R' D F R F D2 R' D B U
14. 21.61 B D2 L2 F2 L2 R2 D2 R2 U2 B' R D L' B2 R2 B' D' B2 R F'
15. 27.78 R' U2 L' F2 L' B2 U2 F2 L2 U2 F D B2 U F2 U' L B' R'
16. 30.50 U' F2 R' L' D2 B' U R F2 L' B U2 L' F2 D2 F2 R U2 R U2 R'
17. 17.39 B2 U2 R U2 L2 U2 L' B2 F2 U2 R' B D2 R' B L' B' D' F
18. 22.15 D R2 D' R2 F2 U F2 L2 D' L2 F2 L' D B R' D' B U F D F
19. 19.65 F R2 B R2 D2 F U2 B R2 B2 R' D F' L2 U B R B2 D' U'
20. 23.53 L B2 U2 B U' R L2 U2 B' R2 U' R2 L2 U' F2 D' L2 U D R2
21. 21.92 F2 U2 B U2 L2 F U2 F U2 F2 U2 R' D2 F D2 U' R2 F2 L2 U'
22. 18.94 U' L2 D' F2 U L2 R2 B2 U' F2 U F D' R2 D' U2 L' U2 R' D L
23. 20.01 B2 D' B2 L2 B2 U B2 D' F2 R2 D2 R' B R U2 F' D' R D2 F R'
24. 19.91 B' D2 U2 B' L2 B2 F D2 F2 U2 R2 D R U B D L2 R B' D' B2
25. 17.61 R2 F' D' B2 L' U' R' L B U' L2 U2 R2 F' D2 B' L2 F2 R2 D2 F
26. 24.92 B2 U' R2 B2 U2 R2 D' L2 D' R2 B2 F' L D2 U' B2 L' F' R U2 L2
27. 17.11 F2 D2 U' R2 B2 D B2 R2 U' L2 U' L' D' F' L B R B' R' U' R
28. 23.11 U2 R U2 R D2 R B2 U2 R' F2 D' B' R2 D' U' L B D' B F2
29. 19.51 D2 U2 L' U2 R' F2 R' D2 L' U2 F U L F2 R' U2 R2 B' F
30. 20.49 L2 R2 D2 B U2 F R2 D2 B D2 B L' U' R' B U2 R' D L' D2 L'
31. 20.97 L2 U2 L2 D2 B2 L2 B D2 L2 U2 L' D2 R D B2 L2 U L2 F U'
32. 21.84 U F2 R2 B2 U' R2 U F2 D B2 U2 F D' R' U L F L' U' B' D2
33. 18.53 R2 F2 U B2 D2 L2 U' L2 U2 F2 U F' R F D2 L' D' R' U2 F' R2
34. 27.01 B2 U2 R U F' L' D' B R2 F D' B2 L2 U' F2 R2 U' F2 B2 U F2
35. 22.06 F2 D2 L' R2 D2 R2 B2 R2 B2 R' F' U F' R2 F2 R B' L2 F2
36. 24.98 L2 F' R' F2 D' F2 B U B2 U B2 R' L2 B2 L2 F2 D2 F2 L' F2 B2
37. 20.35 B2 D L2 D' B2 F2 L2 U F2 U L2 R F2 D2 U B' D2 F L B' F
38. 16.83 R2 D2 R2 B' F2 L2 D2 U2 B F2 D' R2 U2 F L2 U' R F2 L' F' U'
39. 27.52 L2 U' R2 D2 B2 F2 D' B2 D R2 D B' F R' D U2 B' L' R F2 L'
40. 20.47 F L2 R2 U2 B' U2 F R2 F U' R' B F2 R2 D' U' B' D' F'
41. 17.53 U2 F R D L' U B' U R' B R2 L2 U2 R2 U2 B2 R2 U F2 U'
42. 25.53 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R' D2 R2 D2 B2 L U' F' R D2 L2 F' L D F' D2
43. 26.04 B' R2 U2 B' R2 F D2 B D2 U2 F2 D' R' D' L B' D' L' B L' U'
44. 19.56 U' F2 B R2 B2 U2 D R' B' R2 U2 L2 U L2 D2 F2 R2 U2 B2 R2
45. 20.04 B2 D U B2 L2 D R2 U L2 R2 D L' R U R2 U' B F U' L2
46. 18.53 U' B2 F2 L2 U' R2 U' L2 U2 F2 D2 L' B2 L2 B' F2 L' U' L2 B
47. 21.83 R D2 U2 R' D2 L F2 L' B2 F2 R' U' B' D2 R2 D B2 L' B' D2 B
48. 17.89 U2 R2 F D2 U2 R2 B L2 R2 U2 F2 R' B L' R2 F' U L' F2 D' R2
49. 16.70 R2 U R2 U2 F2 D' L2 F2 U F2 U' B F' U' L' F2 L R2 F' D2 F
50. 19.78 F2 U2 F' U2 F' D2 F' L2 B' D2 B' D R2 B' L2 D2 F2 L U' L'

Spoiler: distribution

14+: 1
16+: 8
18+: 12
20+: 12
22+: 5
24+: 7
26+: 4
28+: 0
30+: 1

Nice! I bet if you do 50 more solves on top of that you can easily break your ao100 PB by like half a second.

 

[MarcelP]

My first 50 are most of the times the best 50 in a Ao100 Good job sk8terman41.

 

[MarcelP]

For the CN people (the real cool people)

8. 14.76 L2 F2 B U2 R2 U2 B U2 R2 F' B' R F L2 F' B2 D2 U F2 L' R F' R U B'

I had 18.xx on second try on yellow but the 14.76 on first try on green

 

[Logiqx]

For the CN people (the real cool people)

8. 14.76 L2 F2 B U2 R2 U2 B U2 R2 F' B' R F L2 F' B2 D2 U F2 L' R F' R U B'

I had 18.xx on second try on yellow but the 14.76 on first try on green

Nice scramble. An easy 2-gen X-cross on green (5 moves, re-gripless).

 

[MarcelP]

Nice scramble. An easy 2-gen X-cross on green (5 moves, re-gripless).

Hence the full step sub 15 .. But you know.. I feel like Feliks when I pull something like that off LOL.. I need more scrambles like that..

edit:
You mean z R2' U' R U R . I missed that.

I did

x' y' // inspection
R U' R' Y U R U' R' // FIRST PAIR
y' R' F R2 U2 R' F U2 F' // CROSS + 2ND PAIR
L U' L' U L U L' //3RD
R U R' U F' U' F //F2l
OLL
PLL

 

[PJKCuber]

For the CN people (the real cool people)

8. 14.76 L2 F2 B U2 R2 U2 B U2 R2 F' B' R F L2 F' B2 D2 U F2 L' R F' R U B'

I had 18.xx on second try on yellow but the 14.76 on first try on green

Haha I'm cool then.

 

[Logiqx]

You mean z R2' U' R U R . I missed that.

Yeah. That's the one... you can also finish with an l rather than an R so the cross is facing down afterwards.

ISTR the second pair was easy enough to be planned during inspection so I should have gone for a fully planned xx-cross!

 

[TDM]

L2 F2 B U2 R2 U2 B U2 R2 F' B' R F L2 F' B2 D2 U F2 L' R F' R U B'

wow, that's a really good scramble...

z y2 // Inspection
R2 U' l F R // X-cross (5/5)
[U D'] R U' R' E' // F2L-2 (5/10)
R U R' // F2L-3 (3/13)
y R U2 R' U' R U2 R' // WVLS (7/20)
R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U // PLL (11/31)

20 moves up to PLL!

Also I'm uploading the AvG edge pairing stuff now, but it takes a long time for me to upload videos, so it could be a few hours.

 

[MarcelP]

wow, that's a really good scramble...

z y2 // Inspection
R2 U' l F R // X-cross (5/5)
[U D'] R U' R' E' // F2L-2 (5/10)
R U R' // F2L-3 (3/13)
y R U2 R' U' R U2 R' // WVLS (7/20)
R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U // PLL (11/31)

20 moves up to PLL!

Nice x-cross I had quite a bit more moves.

Also I'm uploading the AvG edge pairing stuff now, but it takes a long time for me to upload videos, so it could be a few hours.

Cool.. I had PB Ao5 and Ao12 just now...

Spoiler

5x5x5 cube 15-okt-2014

Mean: 5:05.55
Average: 5:03.83
Best time: 4:05.67
Median: 4:57.85
Worst time: 6:24.35
Standard deviation: 43.67

Best average of 5: 4:43.32
3-7 - 4:51.73 4:57.85 (4:05.67) 4:20.39 (5:17.51)

Best average of 12: 4:57.93
2-13 - (6:24.35) 4:51.73 4:57.85 (4:05.67) 4:20.39 5:17.51 5:30.26 5:00.66 6:11.72 4:31.06 4:43.75 4:14.41

 

[Logiqx]

Cool.. I had PB Ao5 and Ao12 just now...

Your 5x5x5 times have plummeted recently. Good work!

 

[MarcelP]

Your 5x5x5 times have plummeted recently. Good work!

Thanks, yeah but I practice nothing but 5X5 at the moment

 

[Rocky0701]

Nice x-cross I had quite a bit more moves.



Cool.. I had PB Ao5 and Ao12 just now...

Spoiler

5x5x5 cube 15-okt-2014

Mean: 5:05.55
Average: 5:03.83
Best time: 4:05.67
Median: 4:57.85
Worst time: 6:24.35
Standard deviation: 43.67

Best average of 5: 4:43.32
3-7 - 4:51.73 4:57.85 (4:05.67) 4:20.39 (5:17.51)

Best average of 12: 4:57.93
2-13 - (6:24.35) 4:51.73 4:57.85 (4:05.67) 4:20.39 5:17.51 5:30.26 5:00.66 6:11.72 4:31.06 4:43.75 4:14.41

Nice! You have gotten me back into 5x5 now haha. I just got a 2:20.97 single and 2:37.98 ao5 tonight

 

[Logiqx]

After filming some of the stars at Cuthberts Open, I decided to upload a few of my better solves to my channel.

I was really quite bad today... zero look-ahead but I did catch a 18.51 Ao5 on film.

Spoiler

Let me know what you think... besides the 3xPLL during the last solve,

 

[TDM]

Here's the AvG video. Sorry about the bad video quality; my camera is about half my age

 

[MarcelP]

After filming some of the stars at Cuthberts Open, I decided to upload a few of my better solves to my channel.

I was really quite bad today... zero look-ahead but I did catch a 18.51 Ao5 on film.


Let me know what you think... besides the 3xPLL during the last solve,

That is really nice. After the first two solves I went back and restarted. You turned so slow but got very good times. That is how smooth and pauseless solves look like. Good stuff.

Here's the AvG video. Sorry about the bad video quality; my camera is about half my age

Great! I have seen so many thing I do not use myself. This video will help my solves a lot. I must watch it a few times again. Thanks!

 

[Logiqx]

That is really nice. After the first two solves I went back and restarted. You turned so slow but got very good times. That is how smooth and pauseless solves look like. Good stuff.

Thanks. I try to vary my turn speed slightly throughout the solve. Using this approach, I get my "good times" (relative term) pretty effortlessly but I constantly need to remind myself not to rush!

Today was also the first time I did timed solves with the cube starting on the desk. For some reason it actually seemed to calm me down...

 

[mark49152]

Great videos, thanks TDM and Logiqx. Logiqx, you made that average look so easy! I feel like I turn twice that fast and frantically, with worse times. I guess that's the point

TDM, did you try my 5x5 edge hiding idea?

New PLL time attack PB today: 48.08. If only I could do them that fast in solves! I finish well if I get an EPLL or A perm, but anything else seems to go locky on me.