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[Schmidt]

"My" method:
Solve the bottom(the ones below the tips)
find an edge in the bottom layer that needs to go to the top layer and do R L R' L' or L' R' L R
if a piece is correct but flipped, swap it with any bottom edge with one of the above algs
solve the bottom like most other methods

almost worst case:
[video=youtube_share;hvBj15kucVc]http://youtu.be/hvBj15kucVc[/video]

 

[MarcelP]

Maybe this helps

"My" method:

Thanks guys... I will have a go at it

 

[MarcelP]

A scramble I received today on a Dutch Facebook group:

B2 F2 D' F2 U' R2 U' L2 U2 F2 R2 B' U2 L D2 B2 F R B2 L' U

x2 y2 //Inspection
R' D' R' L2 B2 // XX-cross (5)
U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R2 U' R' // 3rd F2L (10)
U2 L' U L U' F U F' // Complete F2L (8)
T- OLL (8)
Aa- PLL (11)

I got a sub 10 on the first try

42 moves = 4.12 TPS

 

[sneaklyfox]

Did you actually see that XXcross in inspection or was that a fluke?

 

[kcl]

5.16 on that, 39 move solution haha. The way I did f2l gave me R' F R U R' U' F' U R into H perm with no AUF.

 

[MarcelP]

Did you actually see that XXcross in inspection or was that a fluke?

No not at all.. I just tried the scramble and had a sub 10 I have been working on x-crosses and I have come to the conclusion that just doing the best cross (in as few moves) works best for me. If I spot a pair and the 'trying to preserve' it really really slows down my solve.. That only works if you have high TPS.. So just doing the cross (and breaking up possible pairs) and then go into F2L is better for me.

 

[Gordon]

I just had probably the most inconsistent avg of 5 ever:

21.58, (32.92), 22.47, (21.05), 30.69 => 24.91
(Weekly comp scrambles)

32 was messed up cross, 30 was bad cross... I hate the cross.
If at least one of them would have been good.
anyway... the other three solves were extraordinary good, not usual at all...


BTW:
how do you solve cases like this in the cross:

Spoiler

I mean only the orange/white and blue/white piece. It doesn't matter if the other two are solved or not

 

[MarcelP]

how do you solve cases like this in the cross:

Spoiler

I mean only the orange/white and blue/white piece. It doesn't matter if the other two are solved or not

Easy:
White on R and orange on F:
R U R' U' two times.. I have no cube here.. so I can not verify... I might have it wrong

Btw, cross is easy to get better at.. Instead of doing complete solves scramble after solving cross only. I do that at least 100 times in a weekend.

 

[h2f]

If you mean cross: R D R' D' R'.

 

[CiaranBeahan]

Congratulations on 100,000 views on this thread! I just wanted to point that out incase anybody missed it.

 

[mark49152]

Congratulations on 100,000 views on this thread! I just wanted to point that out incase anybody missed it.

I wonder if that's 100,000 views by the same 5 people

 

[MarcelP]

Congratulations on 100,000 views on this thread! I just wanted to point that out incase anybody missed it.

Wow, that is actually pretty cool..

 

[Gordon]

Ahhhh... Finaly another sub 20: 18.88. If I remember correct, it's my 6th.
L' D' B L' B R L2 F' L2 B U' B2 D R2 L2 D2 B2 D R2 F2 U

OLL skip, but I don't care

 

[MarcelP]

Nice man! You are definatly improving (No PB's without improvement right?)..

I have watched your Pyraminx video a few times now and I get the key hole principle now. But I am way more comfertable with doing centers first and than edges with the easy 4 move algs. I have tried the key hole thing for a week but I think I have to give up on that

EDIT: Just had this one with PLL -skip 13.36 F' U2 F U R' U B2 D F B2 R' L B2 U2 R' D2 L' U2 R U2

Edit 2: Fullstep 14.48 B2 L2 D2 F L2 B L2 R2 U2 R' D2 U' L' F2 D2 F2 U2 R U

 

[MarcelP]

I am back to solving full color neutral. Having lot's of full step sub 15 solves. (Well.. almost one per day LOL..)

Look at this beautifull scramble.. (generated by csTimer at WCA mode)

14.54 D' B2 U R2 B2 U' L2 F' D2 R2 B L' U F' L2 F R2

If life would only be so kind to throw me one of these in competition.

 

[sk8erman41]

If life would only be so kind to throw me one of these in competition.

Boy that's hard to resist! And red is my least favorite color cross. GJ

 

[MarcelP]

GJ

Thanks The last week my times have been quite off here and there.. But since I started to go back to CN they are comming back to where I want them. Todays Ao50 with a very very cool standard deviation:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-8-19
solves/total: 50/50

single
best: 14.54
worst: 25.04

mean of 3
current: 21.25 (σ = 0.97)
best: 18.06 (σ = 3.94)

avg of 5
current: 21.29 (σ = 0.91)
best: 19.66 (σ = 2.50)

avg of 12
current: 20.59 (σ = 1.42)
best: 20.40 (σ = 1.72)

avg of 50
current: 20.98 (σ = 1.52)
best: 20.98 (σ = 1.52)

Average: 20.98 (σ = 1.52)
Mean: 20.90

Time List:
1. 22.67 U2 B2 F2 D' F2 L2 U' B2 U2 F2 D B U' B2 L' F2 R B2 U' F2 L
2. 22.51 D2 B2 D U2 B2 U' F2 U' L2 B2 F' R' B' U2 L2 U' R F2 L F2 U2
3. 22.96 R2 F' R2 L2 U R U F B' L' B2 R2 B2 U R2 L2 U L2
4. 17.70 U2 B2 L' R2 D2 F2 R2 B2 L R' D L' D2 R2 F' D' R2 U L D
5. 21.05 L' B2 D2 L' F2 U2 F2 L' R B2 U2 F' U' L F2 D' U' R2 F L' R2
6. 24.10 U2 B2 R2 B R2 D2 B2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 F' L2 D R F2 D B2 L
7. 21.63 F2 R2 B2 U R2 B2 F2 U L2 F2 U L R2 B' D' B2 R' D2 L2 D B2
8. 23.67 F2 R' B2 U2 L B2 R B2 R' D2 R' B F U F R' U' F2 D' B U
9. 14.54 D' B2 U R2 B2 U' L2 F' D2 R2 B L' U F' L2 F R2
10. 17.33 D2 R B2 D2 R' B2 U2 L' D2 U2 L' F R' U' B' D2 R' F2 U' F2
11. 22.31 D2 B' L2 F' U2 B F' D2 R2 B L2 R' F' U' R D L' U' B2 R
12. 19.35 B2 R2 D B2 D2 L2 B2 U L2 U R' B' L2 U2 R U R' D F2 U'
13. 22.72 L U' D L F' L' B D F R' F D2 F R2 D2 F U2 B' U2 B' U2
14. 19.66 R2 F' R2 B2 U2 L2 F2 R2 B L2 F' U' R' D B2 D2 L R2 B2 U' F'
15. 20.91 R2 F2 L' F2 U2 L B2 D2 L B2 R B D2 L' U' B2 D B2 R D F2
16. 18.40 F' R' U' D L' F L' D' L' U' F2 U2 L2 D2 F' U2 F2 D2 L2 D2 B
17. 21.83 R2 B' R' F2 B' R' U2 D F' U D B2 D B2 L2 U' R2 D2 R2 U'
18. 20.90 B' D2 B' R2 F' L2 F' R2 B' F2 D R2 D' B R D F R2 D'
19. 23.69 U2 B R2 D2 B' F2 U2 L2 U2 F' D2 L' B' U2 B2 R2 B D B' F2 R2
20. 20.56 R2 B2 D F2 D2 F2 U' L2 D U' L2 F D' L F' D2 F U' B L' R2
21. 20.72 U2 R2 D2 B U2 B2 R2 U2 B2 U2 B2 L' F U' R2 F2 R D L U2 B
22. 20.08 L2 R2 U2 F2 U L2 B2 D' B2 D B' U2 L D2 B' D' F2 U2 L' R'
23. 18.96 R2 U F2 L2 B2 D' F2 U R2 D2 B' L2 U L B L R' D' B U
24. 20.67 R2 F2 R' F' R' D2 L' B U' R' U' R2 U2 R2 B2 D B2 U R2 D2 L2
25. 21.61 F' L2 F' L2 F' U2 B' D2 F R2 B R' B2 R2 F2 D L' B2 F2 L' B'
26. 23.58 D' F2 D2 L2 U F2 D' B2 F2 L2 B L' R2 B' R U2 F' D U' B U
27. 19.36 R2 F2 D2 L2 D2 B L2 R2 B D2 B' R' D L F D U2 L' B L2
28. 20.20 R2 D2 F2 U2 F U2 R2 D2 F R2 B U' L2 D L D' R F D R2 B2
29. 21.42 L' F2 U2 L' R F2 L B2 F2 R2 B L' F2 D2 F2 D' B R2
30. 22.86 B2 D F2 D2 B2 R2 B2 F2 U B2 D R B L' R F R U L U2 R
31. 21.20 B L2 B F2 L2 D2 F D2 B2 F' D' L2 F' R B2 L2 F U B2 L' U
32. 19.09 U2 L' B U R2 F' U D' L' B' U' F2 B2 L2 F2 U' L2 D' R2
33. 19.04 U2 L2 U B2 D' B2 D' F2 D' R D' U2 R D2 R' U' L' F' U'
34. 21.64 L F2 D2 L2 U2 F2 R F2 R2 U2 R F' U F2 L' F' R2 F2 L' B
35. 21.68 L2 F' R2 F D2 B L2 R2 U2 F R' F2 L' B' D B2 R' F' L' D2
36. 23.31 D' R' B2 L2 U2 F' B2 D B D2 R U2 L2 D2 R U2 L F2 R2 L
37. 20.37 B U D' F2 U B R U R F2 U L2 F2 D L2 B2 U R2 D
38. 22.50 F2 U' F U' L2 U2 B R L2 F U' D B2 U2 F2 R2 D' F2 R2 B2 U2
39. 17.23 L2 B2 F2 U2 L B2 R B2 F2 R' D' R' D' B' L B' U R2 D2 F
40. 21.53 U B L' F' U' B D2 R U2 D R2 F R2 B' L2 B2 U2 F D2 L2
41. 20.43 D' B2 R2 F2 L2 U' B2 R2 D2 L2 R B2 F' D2 R D L2 R2 B' F
42. 21.73 F2 L' B2 D2 L F2 U2 R2 F2 U2 R' D B2 D2 R B' U' R D L F'
43. 17.28 F R2 D2 F D2 R2 B2 L2 U2 F' U B' L R' D F D R2 U R2
44. 19.49 U' F2 R2 D F2 L2 U2 F2 D' L2 U F' D L' F2 L' B F L' F' L2
45. 21.29 L2 R' F2 D2 U2 L2 F2 D2 U' L D' L2 B2 R F R B2 F'
46. 25.04 B' L' D F2 L2 B U2 D' L' U2 B R2 F2 U2 F' U2 L2 U2 L2
47. 20.37 R2 B2 D' R2 U L2 D B2 D B2 R U F U2 F R2 U' F R' D2
48. 22.19 U' B2 U B2 D2 R2 D' F2 R2 U2 L D2 B2 D B U2 B' D
49. 20.26 U' R' U F' D R B U2 L2 D' R2 F2 R2 F R2 U2 R2 U2 L2 B' L2
50. 21.30 B2 L2 F' L2 F2 U2 F R2 F R2 D2 L' R F' R' B R B2 D F2 R'

 

[sk8erman41]

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Broke my PB Ao12 that have stood for a super long time! I feel like I am on the verge of a permanent time drop and feeling good about it!

Spoiler: Ao50 (21.11)

Rubik's cube
Aug 20, 2014 3:58:37 PM - 4:37:34 PM

Mean: 21.13
Average: 21.11
Best time: 16.08
Median: 20.65
Worst time: 26.77
Standard deviation: 2.29

Best average of 5: 19.40
15-19 - (17.49) (23.31) 19.26 19.16 19.77

Best average of 12: 20.39
10-21 - 18.55 19.03 24.47 18.27 (26.77) (17.49) 23.31 19.26 19.16 19.77 19.38 22.72

1. 23.33 L2 D U2 R2 D' F2 D' L2 B2 R2 D2 L F U' L' D L D2 U' L' F2
2. 18.89 U F2 R2 D U2 F2 R2 U' L2 U2 R' B' R D R2 L B' R' B D2
3. 23.96 R2 F2 U2 L2 F2 D' F2 L2 B2 R2 F2 R U' B' R2 F D2 L' U' B L
4. 18.04 B2 U2 F2 R2 D F2 L2 D2 F2 R2 D R U' R U' F L F
5. 19.12 R2 B2 U B2 D L2 U L2 U2 L2 U2 R' F D B2 F D F2 U L2
6. 22.07 B2 U2 L2 B2 R2 U B2 D' U2 R2 D F' U2 L2 U R L' U2 B' L2 F D2
7. 22.40 U L2 U' B2 F2 D' R2 U F2 U2 R' B L2 B2 D U F' L2 U' L'
8. 23.90 B2 U L2 D B2 D2 U' F2 R2 B2 R2 F' U L' D B2 R2 F U' F2 L2
9. 25.06 L2 U2 L2 F2 U' F2 U F2 R2 U R2 F' R' B L' D R2 D' F D' R' U
10. 18.55 U' L2 U B2 U' F2 D B2 D' R2 D L' D' F R' U B' R U' R' D U'
11. 19.03 B2 D B2 U2 F2 U2 R2 U L2 U R2 B R F L B' F2 L' F' U' L
12. 24.47 B2 U F2 D L2 D F2 D' L2 D F2 R B U2 L U2 R' F R2 U
13. 18.27 U2 B2 D R2 B2 U2 B2 U' L2 U R2 F' D2 R L' U R' F2 R' L2 F U
14. 26.77 F2 L2 D2 L2 D U F2 L2 U' F2 R2 F' R D U' B F2 D' B R L' U'
15. 17.49 B2 U R2 F2 D' B2 L2 D' B2 F2 L' F2 U R' B2 D' B' R2 F D
16. 23.31 U' L2 U' R2 D' B2 U B2 L2 B2 U2 R' F' D R' L B' D' F R D2 L'
17. 19.26 F2 R2 L2 D F2 D R2 D' B2 D F2 L' F' L' B2 D' B L' U2 F' U
18. 19.16 D2 F2 R2 U B2 L2 D2 R2 D' L2 D' F' L2 U R' D R' L' B' R' F D2
19. 19.77 F2 D' F2 U R2 U F2 R2 B2 R2 B' U L' F' U2 L B' R2 F D
20. 19.38 U' L2 U' F2 U F2 D2 L2 B2 D2 B' U R D L2 D L U' R' U2 F'
21. 22.72 D2 B2 U R2 L2 F2 D L2 D2 B2 L U' F' R2 L2 F' D2 R D' L' U2
22. 24.48 U2 L2 U R2 D R2 D' L2 D B2 D B F D2 U' F' D2 R F' L D2 U
23. 21.95 F2 R2 D' U R2 L2 F2 D R2 B' D F2 R2 F' U L' B' R U' B2 U2
24. 21.72 D B2 D' B2 D R2 B2 R2 L2 U F R B' F R L' D' B2 U' F' R2
25. 24.11 U2 L2 U B2 U' B2 L2 U2 R2 D' B2 L' U B D' F R B2 R' D' L2 U2
26. 18.99 U' F2 D2 F2 U B2 L2 B2 R2 U2 L2 F R B' L' B' R2 D' R' U2 L
27. 19.51 F2 U2 B2 L2 U' R2 L2 F2 R2 U' B2 R B' R2 B2 D2 F R L' B' L U'
28. 22.72 D R2 D' L2 D R2 F2 U L2 B2 R' B2 R' D2 U' F L' U2 B L
29. 20.57 D' B2 R2 B2 D F2 D L2 U2 F2 D' B U2 L' F2 L' B' U' L' U2 F D2
30. 22.50 R2 F2 U2 B2 L2 U' R2 F2 L2 B2 U' R B D F2 D2 L' U' F2 D L2 D'
31. 16.08 D2 F2 D' L2 U L2 B2 D R2 F2 D2 L' D' U2 R2 U F' D R' L D2
32. 23.97 B2 D' F2 D' F2 R2 U B2 U F2 D B F' U' R' B2 U B' D' L F'
33. 20.67 D2 F2 L2 U2 F2 D' B2 R2 D R2 U' B R D2 B L2 D' R D2 B U
34. 18.28 U' B2 U2 L2 B2 L2 U F2 D2 L2 B2 R U B D2 R' B' L' F U' F D
35. 20.47 F2 R2 B2 D U L2 U F2 D' L2 B2 L' D' F2 U2 F U R L' D' U'
36. 20.31 D' R2 U' B2 R2 U2 R2 F2 R2 B2 D' L' R2 F' D2 L' U' B' R B2 D2
37. 21.02 B2 F2 L2 U2 B2 U R2 D' B2 F2 D' L D F2 D' B' F U F' D L2 U'
38. 20.62 L2 U F2 D2 L2 U' R2 F2 D2 L2 B L2 B2 D2 L' U F U2 R2 U2
39. 22.00 R2 F2 D U2 F2 R2 D B2 L2 F2 U' L F U' R2 D' B2 R D' B L U'
40. 21.20 U2 B2 U' R2 B2 U B2 U' L2 U' L2 B' U F' D U B2 R D R2 B2
41. 21.97 B2 D R2 F2 U R2 F2 D2 B2 U' L2 B F' L' F' R U R D2 L' D' U
42. 19.33 B2 F2 U' F2 D2 F2 R2 B2 U2 L' B' F2 U2 F R L2 D'
43. 20.84 R2 U F2 D F2 U B2 L2 D L2 D' B L2 U2 B L B U' F' D R' B'
44. 24.18 D2 R2 U2 R2 D' F2 R2 D' L2 B2 U L' B R2 F U B R F' D' U2 F2
45. 20.53 U2 F2 U F2 U' L2 F2 D' B2 F2 U' L U R' B U2 B U F2 R2 U2
46. 20.59 D' U' L2 U' L2 F2 D R2 B2 R2 D2 L' D' F' D' F L' B' D L2 D2 U2
47. 18.44 U L2 D' L2 F2 U F2 R2 D R2 B U L2 F2 U R' D L2 F L' D2
48. 24.15 D B2 F2 D' R2 U B2 L2 B2 U2 R D2 U2 L F' L2 F2 R' L'
49. 20.58 U2 L2 D2 L2 B2 D F2 D' R2 U F2 L' U F2 D2 F' D U F U2 L' U'
50. 19.61 D' R2 D' F2 D2 L2 D' R2 U B' U' F2 U F R' D F U2 L' U

 

[sneaklyfox]

Wow, guys. You will soon catch up to me. I haven't been able to cube as much lately since our nanny is no longer with us. I think I'm slower than I was a few months ago.

 

[MarcelP]

Wow, guys. You will soon catch up to me. I haven't been able to cube as much lately since our nanny is no longer with us. I think I'm slower than I was a few months ago.

I did not know you had a nanny But yeah... that sucks.. You will probably up to fast speed again if you start practicing again. Don't worry bout me getting to your times. LOL I am pretty sure the top of my speed has reached. I am focussing on other stuff now. (Pyra, Mega, 2X2 etc)..

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Broke my PB Ao12 that have stood for a super long time! I feel like I am on the verge of a permanent time drop and feeling good about it!

Good stuff!! Keep it up. You are at my speed almost..