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I don't really recognize any of these people. How times change.
Seems like this thread has kind of turned into just bashing Youtube cubers that people don't like

hexacuber said:
cubastic is arguably the most undeserving of his subs
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What makes him undeserving? Because he doesn't make tutorials? Because he is not in the top 1% of speedsolvers? Because he doesn't make content you personally like? Taking a brief look at his videos, they seem relatively unique and well made.
 
ender9994 said:
I don't really recognize any of these people. How times change.
Seems like this thread has kind of turned into just bashing Youtube cubers that people don't like



What makes him undeserving? Because he doesn't make tutorials? Because he is not in the top 1% of speedsolvers? Because he doesn't make content you personally like? Taking a brief look at his videos, they seem relatively unique and well made.
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His content is very clickbaity
 
ender9994 said:
I don't really recognize any of these people. How times change.
Seems like this thread has kind of turned into just bashing Youtube cubers that people don't like



What makes him undeserving? Because he doesn't make tutorials? Because he is not in the top 1% of speedsolvers? Because he doesn't make content you personally like? Taking a brief look at his videos, they seem relatively unique and well made.
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I agree, hexacubber doesn't know what he's talking about. his videos are well made and are high-effort. The thumbnail is kind of clickbait, but the video is pretty good and the trick is nice. My favorite of his videos are the cheapest vs most expensive cubbe video. its pretty nice, and the thumbnail is clickbait. the video compares modern flagships, and the video is good to some point. not my favorite cuber but still you cant say that he is undeserving of his subbs
 
JP cubing said:
I agree, hexacubber doesn't know what he's talking about. his videos are well made and are high-effort. The thumbnail is kind of clickbait, but the video is pretty good and the trick is nice. My favorite of his videos are the cheapest vs most expensive cubbe video. its pretty nice, and the thumbnail is clickbait. the video compares modern flagships, and the video is good to some point. not my favorite cuber but still you cant say that he is undeserving of his subbs
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"kind of clickbait"? Even CE would cringe at how much clickbait is on this channel
 
Honestly I had no idea this topic was so controversial.

Most of the people I've seen post here have super strong opinions, which honestly surprised me. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground, it's like "x channel is horrible, y channel is amazing, if you like x channel you are objectively wrong and a loser". I would even go as far as to say this thread has been more polarizing and controversial than all the method debates.

This is counterproductive in my eyes. It makes sense to debate methods, because some people might have never considered a method or a certain viewpoint. Since most people aren't going to switch methods, it's more about sharing your personal opinion and explaining your reasoning. The discussion is the goal. The debate can get heated, but overall as long as it doesn't turn into a name calling argument, method debates are productive.

I can't say the same for this thread. Debating/arguing over which content creators are the best makes no sense because the discussion is not the goal, and the conclusion is not the goal. First I'll explain what I mean by "the conclusion is not the goal". Since this topic is much more opinion based than something like methods, it is unlikely many people will be convinced that the channel they like is trash and the channel they dislike is amazing. Everyone is going to have a different opinion, and we should respect that.

Next I'll explain what I mean by "the discussion is not the goal". What I mean is that this discussion is a pointless back and forth of name calling and insults. Having a logical discussion about which channels you prefer and why is fine. When you start attacking the content creator and their audience is where the problem arises. We have to remember that these content creators are real people who put a lot of work into what they do, believe it or not. And if someone enjoys a certain channel that others don't, it's not because they are an idiot, it's because they have a different opinion! In the end we are all trying to grow and get better: the content creators, their audience, and everyone in the cubing community. This discussion does nothing for that growth.


TLDR: Just stop already.
 
Nmile7300 said:
Honestly I had no idea this topic was so controversial.

Most of the people I've seen post here have super strong opinions, which honestly surprised me. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground, it's like "x channel is horrible, y channel is amazing, if you like x channel you are objectively wrong and a loser". I would even go as far as to say this thread has been more polarizing and controversial than all the method debates.

This is counterproductive in my eyes. It makes sense to debate methods, because some people might have never considered a method or a certain viewpoint. Since most people aren't going to switch methods, it's more about sharing your personal opinion and explaining your reasoning. The discussion is the goal. The debate can get heated, but overall as long as it doesn't turn into a name calling argument, method debates are productive.

I can't say the same for this thread. Debating/arguing over which content creators are the best makes no sense because the discussion is not the goal, and the conclusion is not the goal. First I'll explain what I mean by "the conclusion is not the goal". Since this topic is much more opinion based than something like methods, it is unlikely many people will be convinced that the channel they like is trash and the channel they dislike is amazing. Everyone is going to have a different opinion, and we should respect that.

Next I'll explain what I mean by "the discussion is not the goal". What I mean is that this discussion is a pointless back and forth of name calling and insults. Having a logical discussion about which channels you prefer and why is fine. When you start attacking the content creator and their audience is where the problem arises. We have to remember that these content creators are real people who put a lot of work into what they do, believe it or not. And if someone enjoys a certain channel that others don't, it's not because they are an idiot, it's because they have a different opinion! In the end we are all trying to grow and get better: the content creators, their audience, and everyone in the cubing community. This discussion does nothing for that growth.


TLDR: Just stop already.
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Are you suggesting that I should delete this thread?
 
Nmile7300 said:
No I'm saying try to make it more of a thoughtful discussion rather than an insult party.
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Then how do you suggest to make this thread not full of "I LOVE J PERM"
Because variety would be nice.
 
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