Which is faster: Guimond or Ortega?

what are you averaging with Ortega right now? Ortega is definitely faster for a beginner, but if you learn to predict separation then Guimond is definitely faster. I would say stick with Ortega for now, since you can get sub-5 *fairly* easily with it.
 
Could anyone fairly say one is faster than the other? Of course knowing both allows you to use whichever method you feel is more efficient for a given situation.
 
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