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Where is the human decency in the cubing community today?

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I have been observing the cubing world since 2008 and the cubing community from 2011ish. It used to be a beautiful experience to see puzzle solving happening in small pockets with very less exposure or resources. Cubers used to be helping, selfless, curious, explorative, not so rich, college students who had the zeal to enjoy speedsolving to the fullest. Breaking records was just the consequence of being long enough in the community. No one took pride and escalated their ego while holding a national record. Records used to be broken by big margins and often but the community was development focused or journey focused. Rather than being cut throat and result focused. Cubers used to just know each other online and would look forward to in person interaction and getting to know personalities of each other, while enjoying the same activity. Online identity used to not be fake or concealed, cubers were fine in disclosing their identities as they respected that proper communication can happen only if trust builds and there is no sorts of anonymity. Cubers used to introspect more and find their own weaknesses, rather than point weaknesses in others while being super confident and blind about themselves. The goat of that cubing era was just Feliks Zemdegs who has one of the most impressive personalities, showing humility can exist in such a dominating speedcuber. Cubing rivalries were fierce but there was no bad faith between cubers and their fanbases. Putting videos on YouTube used to be an art with discussing ideas being the agenda rather than collecting views and being the show off king. Active cubers were less, and most of them did not have a plan to continue giving time to it after life would get busy, which is perfectly reasonable.

Fast forward to today, many top cubers are talking about mental health and cubing. I feel if they choose the right approach of being competitive at that level and have the right mindset, the question of mental health disappears. Due to lack of attention span, and the culture to remain anonymous, hate, miscommunication, disrespect, acting without context, writing without thinking are enabled. The community's average age is smaller, which also breeds immaturity. The information age has made most overconfident about their knowledge base which leads to less meaningful exchange and groupism. Young kids in today's age are also more insecure which makes them impulsive and dismissive. Gaming and cubing cultures have also come close to each other which makes slangs, usage of cuss words, ghosting, blocking, online bullying seem ok and just. These activities are enabled by many cubers with gaming mindset ganging up and creating a illusionary net to justify their line of actions. Fake framing tactics like victim card play, drawing conclusions prematurely, gaslighting situations, selectivity, manipulations are how conversations go bad in today's age. Rather than resolving things in private with good faith and good soft effective communication and mutual respect. Sometimes I do feel if I did not have the stubborness to understand 5-cycles fully, my way of cubing would have been inclusive with today's cuber, but I feel the issue is agnostic of my personal pursuit to map of interesting cases and mnemonics.

This thought process is written just with an hour's thought of mine. I have a lot more to add to it, especially the transition period when I felt cubing culture started to get sour. I did not put these thoughts into gpt as I wanted to express how my brain exactly feels. I won't be quitting cubing anytime soon even if the toxicity keeps on rising and becomes truly unbearable.

I might be wrong about observing this downfall, but I do feel it is starting to get harder to find the willpower to continue with immaturity being a "majority" in the community.
 
If a community is full of teenagers and minors, you are definitely bound to have immaturity. Most of the kids nowadays probably have gaming as a “side-hobby”, which would explain your observation. However, I believe that your observation shows only a small margin of the cubing community, kind of like a “dark side” of cubing. With growing hobbies/sports like speedcubing, toxicity will always sprout somewhere, no matter how genuine a community may be. Most cubers still keep the genuiness from however many years ago. Your thoughts just zoomed in onto the negative parts, which is a very typical thing that our brains do. I feel like this reflection of yours is a bit too focused on the negative parts of cubing. It’s not like cubing has become a totally toxic community, after all. Just take a look at this forum. I don’t see anything like what you’ve stated here. I don’t really like how you made it sound like the cubing community is a horribly toxic place now compared to back then. Most cubers are still kind, helpful, outgoing, etc. It’s true that cubing has been a a significant rise in controversy, which leads to what seems like hate, but again, your mind just made the situation bigger and made it look like the cubing community is a horrible place.

TDLR: Try not to spiral into negative things. You might be discouraging newer cubers to not pursue their hobby of cubing.

PS. it was not my intention is anything sounded rude
 
I do admit that the more I observed how people are (in general) over the years, the less motivation (and sense of "urgency") I found myself having to share some really interesting things with this world. (Various things, not just cubing stuff.)

And learning the hard truths that many people:
  • Would rather stay ignorant than have their egos hurt . . . and would do just about anything necessary to stop the messenger,
  • Trust in and support the loudest voice (rather than the most credible one),
  • Are offended by everything and are ashamed of nothing.
  • Expect everything to be free, but yet act like they're "too busy" to contribute themselves. ("They have a life.")
That makes it clearer to me as to why we are not as technologically advanced (or evolved, united, etc.) as we could be (and why the same issues go unresolved year after year, even when clever solutions have been presented/offered many times over).
 
cubers were fine in disclosing their identities...
uhh, & who isnt anymore ? i literally cannot think of anyone that is basically anonymous in cubing other than myself & like soup wth

i will say though, all of these problems indeed come from the fact that cubing just isnt as developed despite what some people make it seem to be
but i promise you all of these issues will pass with time because of this fact, literally as long as (imo) cubing simply becomes more of a legitimate viable career, whether it would be through speedsolving/delegating/commentating/researching/content creation, AND we continue to keep being honest with ourselves in terms of the fact that cubes are merely just puzzles that we speedrun for some reason, of which are really not that indicative of anything else
 
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i literally cannot think of anyone that is basically anonymous in cubing other than myself & like soup wth
My WCA profile (and hence real name) are pretty easy to find but I've never once explicitly linked to it. Does that count? :p
 
I have been observing the cubing world since 2008 and the cubing community from 2011ish. It used to be a beautiful experience to see puzzle solving happening in small pockets with very less exposure or resources. Cubers used to be helping, selfless, curious, explorative, not so rich, college students who had the zeal to enjoy speedsolving to the fullest. Breaking records was just the consequence of being long enough in the community. No one took pride and escalated their ego while holding a national record. Records used to be broken by big margins and often but the community was development focused or journey focused. Rather than being cut throat and result focused. Cubers used to just know each other online and would look forward to in person interaction and getting to know personalities of each other, while enjoying the same activity. Online identity used to not be fake or concealed, cubers were fine in disclosing their identities as they respected that proper communication can happen only if trust builds and there is no sorts of anonymity. Cubers used to introspect more and find their own weaknesses, rather than point weaknesses in others while being super confident and blind about themselves. The goat of that cubing era was just Feliks Zemdegs who has one of the most impressive personalities, showing humility can exist in such a dominating speedcuber. Cubing rivalries were fierce but there was no bad faith between cubers and their fanbases. Putting videos on YouTube used to be an art with discussing ideas being the agenda rather than collecting views and being the show off king. Active cubers were less, and most of them did not have a plan to continue giving time to it after life would get busy, which is perfectly reasonable.

Fast forward to today, many top cubers are talking about mental health and cubing. I feel if they choose the right approach of being competitive at that level and have the right mindset, the question of mental health disappears. Due to lack of attention span, and the culture to remain anonymous, hate, miscommunication, disrespect, acting without context, writing without thinking are enabled. The community's average age is smaller, which also breeds immaturity. The information age has made most overconfident about their knowledge base which leads to less meaningful exchange and groupism. Young kids in today's age are also more insecure which makes them impulsive and dismissive. Gaming and cubing cultures have also come close to each other which makes slangs, usage of cuss words, ghosting, blocking, online bullying seem ok and just. These activities are enabled by many cubers with gaming mindset ganging up and creating a illusionary net to justify their line of actions. Fake framing tactics like victim card play, drawing conclusions prematurely, gaslighting situations, selectivity, manipulations are how conversations go bad in today's age. Rather than resolving things in private with good faith and good soft effective communication and mutual respect. Sometimes I do feel if I did not have the stubborness to understand 5-cycles fully, my way of cubing would have been inclusive with today's cuber, but I feel the issue is agnostic of my personal pursuit to map of interesting cases and mnemonics.

This thought process is written just with an hour's thought of mine. I have a lot more to add to it, especially the transition period when I felt cubing culture started to get sour. I did not put these thoughts into gpt as I wanted to express how my brain exactly feels. I won't be quitting cubing anytime soon even if the toxicity keeps on rising and becomes truly unbearable.

I might be wrong about observing this downfall, but I do feel it is starting to get harder to find the willpower to continue with immaturity being a "majority" in the community.
I think a lot of this is also just society
 
It used to be a beautiful experience to see puzzle solving happening in small pockets with very less exposure or resources. Cubers used to be helping, selfless, curious, explorative, not so rich, college students who had the zeal to enjoy speedsolving to the fullest. Breaking records was just the consequence of being long enough in the community. No one took pride and escalated their ego while holding a national record. Records used to be broken by big margins and often but the community was development focused or journey focused. Rather than being cut throat and result focused. Cubers used to just know each other online and would look forward to in person interaction and getting to know personalities of each other, while enjoying the same activity. Online identity used to not be fake or concealed, cubers were fine in disclosing their identities as they respected that proper communication can happen only if trust builds and there is no sorts of anonymity. Cubers used to introspect more and find their own weaknesses, rather than point weaknesses in others while being super confident and blind about themselves. The goat of that cubing era was just Feliks Zemdegs who has one of the most impressive personalities, showing humility can exist in such a dominating speedcuber. Cubing rivalries were fierce but there was no bad faith between cubers and their fanbases. Putting videos on YouTube used to be an art with discussing ideas being the agenda rather than collecting views and being the show off king. Active cubers were less, and most of them did not have a plan to continue giving time to it after life would get busy, which is perfectly reasonable
I started cubing in 2022 so I missed the good times in cubing. I still think cubing is an awesome hobby tho.
I think a lot of this is also just society
I agree with this.
 
Contrary, I feel like a bit around Covid there was a lot of elitism that people were complaining about, but it just came with the territory of the sport growing. Now I think cubing is really chill. People are always going to have personal problems, but I think cubing has stabilized and a lot of that community has grown up and realized the fun in friends and keeping a pr streak.
 
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Agree 100% about Felix Zemdegs. One of the very few top cubers I respect as a person
You need to meet more top cubers. Feliks, of course, is awesome. I've had the good fortune to meet and judge dozens of top cubers. Tymon, Max, Max Siauw, Sameer, all the Lukes, Patrick Ponce, Stanley, Tommy, Brendyn Dunagan, Carter Kucala, Kevin Hays, and many, many more. Without fail, they've been great. Maybe it's because I'm older and don't want anything from them but the interactions have all been good.
 
You have some valid points (I believe I fall into the latter category 😭 ) But Caleb does have a good point as well. There are a lot of people with different personalities, so maybe if you avoid those people while still having a respect for them would help. (Sorry, wrong advice, but not really "one with words")
 
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