When will Eriks´ 3x3 single 7.08 be broken? Vote! :-)

[~Adam~]

Not true. It's only a matter of time (even though that time could be next competition or a trillion competitions from now) before someone gets a scramble that's so simple even someone averaging a minute could solve it sub 7.08.

What he's saying is silly, but somewhat true. Since a random position is generated, it is possible for a cube to be 13-15 turns away from being solved. Unfortunately, scrambles like this would most likely be removed.

Find me a cuber who averages a minute who can see a 13-15 turn solution within their inspection time and can perform it with a stackmat within 7.08.
I will get you the world record breaking cookie.

 

[RCTACameron]

I'm sure there have been scrambles in competition that can be solved in 15 moves, just no one can find the optimal solution.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone was expecting Faz to break the WR, then someone less well know got a lucky scramble and got sub-7. Even though Faz is a lot more likely to, there are quite a few people who could do it with a bit of luck.

 

[Fire Cuber]

His WR will never be broken!!!

But in all seriousness now: look at the best single times on the wca.
It will be soon

I don´t want it to be broken though...

never

haha yes, never.

faz will get 7.09 in the future, then he quits cubing because he gives up

 

[Stefan]

it is possible for a cube to be 13-15 turns away from being solved. Unfortunately, scrambles like this would most likely be removed.

Are you in a somewhat parallel universe? That's awesome! How do you communicate with us?

 

[IamWEB]

Ok Everyone, it's been a fun 2 years, but I think I'll go ahead and break the WR soon. You've been great, Erik, and more WRs to you. (I'm coming after 2x2x2 single WR too though, so watch out. I think I'll relax and let Anthony get it, though.)

 

[Timoke6]

do you not have any religion

if you are a christian, you do NOT believe the world and 2012

Oh and, i think Faz have a very good chance on 4-6 comps

oh and guys, a message. Master Kenobi said:

"There is no such thing as luck"

i was just joking...

 

[Mr Cubism]

Leave Erik alone, he has the WR until it gets broken,

Not if he breaks it again!

 

[TK 421]

i was just joking...

i know

but, man. if the record is broken. Faz will be the #1 guy

 

[ben1996123]

Either me in 2020, or first half of 2011 (Eye accidentally voted this year on the poll). It will not be sub 7 and it will be broken by Yu Sajima.

 

[Fire Cuber]

do you not have any religion

if you are a christian, you do NOT believe the world and 2012

Oh and, i think Faz have a very good chance on 4-6 comps

oh and guys, a message. Master Kenobi said:

"There is no such thing as luck"

I laughed at this post, very funny.

 

[r_517]

being the fact that there were already 10 people got sub 10 avg in comps, the 7.08 is not an unreachable time for those awesome cubers. just let it be. it will happen when it happens

 

[Chrish]

What he's saying is silly, but somewhat true. Since a random position is generated, it is possible for a cube to be 13-15 turns away from being solved. Unfortunately, scrambles like this would most likely be removed.

There's a difference between a cube being 13 moves away in a CFOP solve and just ''13 moves from being solved''.

 

[Andrew Ricci]

Find me a cuber who averages a minute who can see a 13-15 turn solution within their inspection time and can perform it with a stackmat within 7.08.
I will get you the world record breaking cookie.

Obviously a minute is a giant exaggeration, but if a scramble is easy enough, I can see someone who averages 20 get sub 7.08.

Are you in a somewhat parallel universe? That's awesome! How do you communicate with us?

I don't know what you mean.

Edit: sorry, I meant 13-15 move scramble, not solution. No idea why I said solution.

 

[Stefan]

I don't know what you mean.

Sigh.

In our universe (in which you obviously don't live), such scrambles are not removed.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Obviously a minute is a giant exaggeration, but if a scramble is easy enough, I can see someone who averages 20 get sub 7.08.

Edit: sorry, I meant 13-15 move scramble, not solution. No idea why I said solution.

Try it.. A 13-move scramble generally isn't that much help, at least to an ordinary cuber like me. I don't know - maybe someone like Feliks can work wonders with them, but someone like me who averages 23 doesn't get much out of them. I did an average of 12 with this: 23.73 - a little worse than average for me.

I wonder what the move count is where I would suddenly start getting better than average results?

Edit: I just tried 8 moves. Still got a normal average: 23.09. This time, I had quite a few extended crosses that I was able to see, but that was compensated for by the fact that I messed a couple of them up and got somewhat bad times. Sort of makes me wonder why I bother with full-length scrambles when practicing - looks like 8 might be plenty, and it would be so much easier and quicker.

 

[Kirjava]

I'm sure there have been scrambles in competition that can be solved in 15 moves

This is extremely unlikely and has probably not happened yet.

 

[Mike Hughey]

This is extremely unlikely and has probably not happened yet.

Unless you're God (or at least know God's algorithm), in which case it has certainly happened quite a few times. I always optimize scrambles for the weekly competition, and I'm pretty sure I've had at least a few that were 15 moves long.

 

[Kirjava]

Oh, I'm stupid and thought he said 13.

/that/ certainly has a low chance of having happened.

 

[qqwref]

Try it.. A 13-move scramble generally isn't that much help, at least to an ordinary cuber like me. I don't know - maybe someone like Feliks can work wonders with them, but someone like me who averages 23 doesn't get much out of them. I did an average of 12 with this: 23.73 - a little worse than average for me.

I got a 13.95. Considering I wasn't warmed up that's probably average ish.

Edit: I just tried 8 moves. Still got a normal average: 23.09.

I got a 13.01 average, not amazing, but a counting 8:
8.47 R' D U2 F2 D2 L' R U2
8.62 L R2 B' D F D' F' D2

EDIT: lol 6.20 B F' D B' R2 B F R (use cross on U)

As far as really lucky solves, you should be more concerned with someone accidentally getting a near-optimal solve than with a 12 or 13 move scramble being used in a competition. It's just not that easy to do an optimal solve.

 

[Cubezz]

Someone averaging a minute could hit 7 seconds? So you're basically saying someone could solve 8~ times faster with a simple scramble? I guess someone who is averaging 7-8 seconds at the time will get ~1 second.
You could troll on my logic, but really, that seems like what you're saying.

Scramble: U'
I think someone that avgs a min could solve that in under 5 sec. I think someone that can't solve a "scrambled" cube could solve that in under 5 sec.