What Would Non-Cubers Guess for the 3x3x3 Single World Record?

[fanwuq]

A lot of people say that there's a "pattern" to it; a few moves which you do over and over until it's solved, so smaller times are a matter of dexterity. I get this a lot, and I have a hard time correcting people, because it is in fact a mixture of "patterns" in the brainless sense, true problem solving, and problem solving which has been made fairly brainless due to repetition.

Actually, my theory is that if you repeat a long series of moves (all six faces) for a lot (I mean like millions) of times, then it can be solved.

I doubt your hypothesis. But if it would be true, then you only need to repeat 5 faces.
http://cube.garron.us/algorithms.htm

 

[MistArts]

A lot of people say that there's a "pattern" to it; a few moves which you do over and over until it's solved, so smaller times are a matter of dexterity. I get this a lot, and I have a hard time correcting people, because it is in fact a mixture of "patterns" in the brainless sense, true problem solving, and problem solving which has been made fairly brainless due to repetition.

Actually, my theory is that if you repeat a long series of moves (all six faces) for a lot (I mean like millions) of times, then it can be solved.

I doubt your hypothesis. But if it would be true, then you only need to repeat 5 faces.
http://cube.garron.us/algorithms.htm

I know already, but that causes a lot more turns.

 

[jcuber]

Most people I meet think it's either a minute or 30s, but when they see me solve they say I should compete.. Yea right! I'm not even close to comp. level!

 

[cmhardw]

A lot of people say that there's a "pattern" to it; a few moves which you do over and over until it's solved, so smaller times are a matter of dexterity. I get this a lot, and I have a hard time correcting people, because it is in fact a mixture of "patterns" in the brainless sense, true problem solving, and problem solving which has been made fairly brainless due to repetition.

Actually, my theory is that if you repeat a long series of moves (all six faces) for a lot (I mean like millions) of times, then it can be solved.

If you really want to get into the theory of this, it is called "Devil's algorithm" and must have a minimum of 43252003274489855999 moves to cycle through all possible permutations exactly once (counting the first permutation before you began doing moves). If an algorithm of this length exists, then assuming you get a random scramble you have to do either 0 moves of Devil's Algorithm, 1 move, ... , 43252003274489855999 moves to solve the cube again.

The probability that you reach the solved state in x number of moves (where x is greater than or equal to zero) is 1/43252003274489856000.

So the expected number of turns is 21 626001 637244 927999.5 +- 12 485777 866758 646693.4

Or 21.6 quintillion turns +- 12 quintillion turns.

So yes you can repeat a long series of twists over and over and bring the cube back to solved, but it would take you about 21.6 quintillion turns to bring it back to solved. +- 12 quintillion ;-)

Basically, what you said is definitely possible (assuming a Devil's algorithm exists with only 1 turn per cube state) but your estimate of doing millions and millions of turns is an understatement to say the least.

Chris

 

[scottp45]

Most people I know think one minute is amazing. I pull mine out and do it in 45 seconds, people think I'm amazing, and should compete. Boy would I get my A** kicked...

 

[*LukeMayn*]

I JUST FOUND THE FUNNIEST THING!!!
This was on nakaji's 11.66 OH vid

i could do it in less than 4 secs but i forgot how to the SPECIAL TURNS

haha what a loser >.<

 

[Cyber]

I did some kinda of enquiry and I got this...
30+ - - none
30-20 - 4
20-10 - 20
10- - - 6

U know the right answer

 

[ImNOTnoob]

Well... I asked cubers in my class who are sub-5 minutes...
They thought the world record was a minute...
I just pulled out my own cube and did a 25 second solve in front of them.

They were like... OMG can teach me how to twist fast????

Well... another friend thought the record was 22.95 seconds, as stated in the hint booklet that came with my old and first cube..

 

[adragast]

My non-cuber friends generally think the world record is about a minute.
A lot of them also say they were able to solve the cube when they were young but it took a lot of time and they forgot how to do it. I tried to teach one of them how to solve it so he could solve it again. He gave up because he was not able to make a cross (I was showing him how to make a cross in two steps like in the video of rubiks.com).
On their defence (for the first part), I am personally amazed by the current world record and by how fast people can be. If I was not a cuber, I am quite sure I would not believe that someone could be sub 10 without being especially lucky (well sub one minute at all).

 

[Ellis]

My non-cuber friends generally think the world record is about a minute.
A lot of them also say they were able to solve the cube when they were young but it took a lot of time and they forgot how to do it. I tried to teach one of them how to solve it so he could solve it again. He gave up because he was not able to make a cross (I was showing him how to make a cross in two steps like in the video of rubiks.com).
On their defence (for the first part), I am personally amazed by the current world record and by how fast people can be. If I was not a cuber, I am quite sure I would not believe that someone could be sub 10 without being especially lucky (well sub one minute at all).

Hey adragast, I was looking on the main page and it says its your birthday, happy birthday man!!! I actually only saw it because your name is right next to mine, but still, happy birthday

 

[somerandomkidmike]

i've heard people say stuff like:

I heard that this one guy did it in 30 seconds
as far as I know the world record is like 10 seconds
people can do it like 20 seconds right?
i saw a video on youtube of this guy that did it in 6 seconds

and the craziest of all when i was on the bus i heard (exact words):

This one person, he took the rubik's cube, gave it to a person guy person and mixing it. He looked at it for 2 seconds and solved it behind his back in 4 seconds.

 

[Neroflux]

i saw a video on youtube of this guy that did it in 6 seconds

that's true.

 

[somerandomkidmike]

i saw a video on youtube of this guy that did it in 6 seconds

that's true.

yes i know it is... but it's still not an official record... but you're right

 

[qinwamascot]

I've heard anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 seconds, with most responses falling in the 10-15 second range.

 

[riffz]

My friend told me about this kid in his class who solved a 5x5 in 30 seconds...

 

[fcwy1]

here is a views of 8 people i surveyed
1. around 8-10
2. 22sec
3. 25-27sec
4. 1min
5. 9sec
6. just below 1min
7. 40-50sec
8. 30sec

 

[Crickets]

I seen some video of a guy saying he was the WR holder at 28 secs and this was how he solved the rubik's cube. It was just made to be a funny vid but alot of people thought he was serious.

 

[Fobo911]

I seen some video of a guy saying he was the WR holder at 28 secs and this was how he solved the rubik's cube. It was just made to be a funny vid but alot of people thought he was serious.

Yeah, I've seen the video.

It makes me chuckle that people would actually respond seriously to this video as if he was not joking. Oh well.