What method to move on to?

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Hey everyone!

I'm new to the forum but have been cubing for about a year and a half

I'm just looking for some advice about what to learn next as I feel that I have got to the peak of what is possible for me to achieve with the algorithms that I know. I'm getting ~1.15 using the basic Fridrich method but I have been timed sub min and know that I have been faster than that.

I've looked all over for tutorials for Waterman as I've seen people use this and it looks like a rather unique way to solve a cube but can't find anything that really makes sense to me =/. I'm a very visual person and can see patterns easily however I'm not so good with the English language and almost all the tuts online are only written with no diagrams or visual aids,

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section and I'm sorry if there is a thread already giving advice in this subject but I'm tired of trawling through endless search results and finding nothing of any value.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

 

[Rpotts]

Can you be a bit more specific about what you're using now? I'm assuming it's Layer-by-layer, with some sort of 4-look last layer.
I would suggest these, in this order.
[wiki]keyhole[/wiki]
[wiki]f2l[/wiki]
[wiki]pll[/wiki]
[wiki]oll[/wiki]

 

[uberCuber]

what exactly do you mean by basic Fridrich method? Do you use intuitive F2L? and what exactly do you do for last layer?

edit: ninja'd by several minutes...lol i walked away from the computer for a few minutes when i was in the middle of typing..

 

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Sorry I didn't really make myself clear!

I use the method that I found on YouTube but my friend bought a new cube for himself and the instructions that came with it (the official Rubik's one) were almost exactly the same apart form a few turns here and there due to holding the cube a different way. I don't really know the name of it =[.

But I'll go check out those links so thanks!

Going back to back to my original question, is Waterman a good step to go to next or am I trying to take too much on and where can I find a good tutorial for it?

Thanks for the quick replies!

 

[waffle=ijm]

Are you serious about Waterman?

or are you confusing it withroux?

 

[xFear of Napalm]

I think it would be good for you to get a new cube if you're using a Rubik's brand,
and start practicing finger-tricking until you can get you times under 50 seconds.
Then, you should start progressing through Fridrich by learning 2-Look Orientation
and 2-Look Permutation of last layer, because its rather easy to learn, and will help
you greatly. Keyhole would also be good to learn at this time, because it's a very
simple method to learn. If you have a friend who cubes and has relatively similar time,
practice and learn with them, and it should be a lot more fun, and above all easier.
All of this helped me when I was about your times. Just remember cubing is a fun
hobby and you don't have to be Feliks Zemdegs to have fun with it. Learning 2x2 and
4x4 is a good way to help your intuition, essentially knowing how your rotations affect
the other cube pieces and how to make methods more natural to preform.

 

[dimwmuni]

If you want to advance in Fridrich then start learning F2L.
Once you know the basics of F2L then learn 2-look PLL and 2-Look OLL and eventually full PLL and full OLL.
People seem to be suggesting keyhole and I would agree but I didn't learn what keyhole was until I knew F2L so it isn't necessary.
You many be confusing Waterman with a different method because Waterman isn't widely used (to my knowledge).

 

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Thanks for all the great advice! I'll look into getting a new cube and the methods you have said =]

I'm pretty sure it is Waterman that I'm thinking of. I like the things that are odd/little used and so that's why Waterman appealed to me as well

But as I have said thanks for all the advice and suggestions especially the one about learning with my friend. We have the occasional race but he's about 20 seconds slower than me so he doesn't find them that fun ha ha ha!

 

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Thanks for all the great advice! I'll look into getting a new cube and the methods you have said =]

I'm pretty sure it is Waterman that I'm thinking of. I like the things that are odd/little used and so that's why Waterman appealed to me as well

But as I have said thanks for all the advice and suggestions especially the one about learning with my friend. We have the occasional race but he's about 20 seconds slower than me so he doesn't find them that fun ha ha ha!

For Waterman go to http://www.rubikscube.info/waterman

To get startet do the following beginner methode:
1) Solve 1st Layer minus on Edge
2) a)Orient corners b) position corners - the first 7 +2 algs from http://www.rubikscube.info/waterman/stage2.php
3) Now just solve all the other edges (may cross read ortega http://rubikscube.info/ortega-2.php) or just do it this is INTUITIV , trust me.
4) Now just at the bottom two lines of Algos for orientation an permutation of middle Layer edges. http://www.rubikscube.info/waterman/stage3.php

This will get you going with waterman so You can improve step by step ( I didn't learn full watermann but I believe you should start improving by learning you to place to Egdes at once withou destoyind the first layer (few/short algs and they are very nice because you understand how tey work, then go for the placing and orientation combos, CLL (42 (minus 7 minus 2) cases I would learn at last )