Weekly competition 2011-02

Mike Hughey:

2x2x2: 9.15, 8.88, 8.31, 8.72, 6.28 = 8.64
3x3x3: 24.50, 23.46, 23.55, 23.05, 25.05 = 23.84
4x4x4: 1:28.43 [P], 1:40.68 [P], 1:28.03 [O], 1:38.34 [OP], 1:24.77 [P] = 1:31.60
5x5x5: 2:30.75, 2:33.50, 2:48.34, 2:51.66, 2:36.09 = 2:39.31
6x6x6: 5:20.19 [O], 5:07.45 [O], 5:05.54 [P], 5:10.46 [P], 5:08.82 [O] = 5:08.91
7x7x7: 8:18.83, 7:38.56, 8:21.75, 7:24.59, 7:19.21 = 7:47.33
2x2x2 BLD: 30.77, 27.28, 27.91 = 27.28
3x3x3 BLD: 1:47.11, 1:52.50, 1:35.72 = 1:35.72
4x4x4 BLD: 8:38.67 [4:21], 9:40.87 [4:16], 8:02.21 [3:34] = 8:02.21
Comment: First one was just a difficult one for me. Second one had bad recall delays. Third one I have no excuse for; I was just really slow.
5x5x5 BLD: 16:50.86 [8:02], DNF [16:33.60, 7:48], DNF [16:51.54, 8:39] = 16:50.86
Comment: Bad week for me. First one was a really difficult scramble. Second one off by 2 twisted corners and 3 + centers (performed an algorithm out of order). Third one off by 3 central edges (I did the last central cycle out of order; I remembered the image correctly, but thought of the pieces backwards).
6x6x6 BLD: DNF [30:20.22, 13:19]
Comment: Ugh; I just can't seem to hit a really big cube BLD this year. 0/3 so far. Off by just 2 obliques; I recalled W instead of V as the last single piece in a cycle. :(
7x7x7 BLD: DNF [50:42.81, 22:20]
Comment: Off by just 3 obliques; I recalled two images out of order. :(
3x3x3 multiBLD: 7/9 = 5 points, 40:21.70 [25:04]
Comment: Fourth and fifth cubes were off by 3 corners. In each case I mismemorized by mistaking where a piece went.
3x3x3 OH: 39.15, 51.11, 51.75, 46.11, 38.38 = 45.46
3x3x3 WF: 2:08.93, 2:20.34, 1:28.53, 2:05.03, 1:59.16 = 2:04.37
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 1:27.09, 1:49.58, 1:24.74, 1:18.03, 1:28.95 = 1:26.93
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 40 moves
2x2x3: D’ L D’ F B R B’ R2 F’ U B2 U’ D2 B2
3x cross: F D2 F2 D’ L D2 L’ D
4th pair: F R F2 R’ F2 R F’ R’
OLL skip
PLL: L2 F’ D’ U L2 D U’ F’ L2 F
Comment: I’m so out of practice. Hopefully I’ll get better at this again over the next few weeks.
2-4 relay: 2:34.31 [OP]
2-5 relay: 4:50.72 [O]
Magic: 10.38, 11.96, 11.88, 25.59, 10.83 = 11.56
Comment: OHITABLD, of course. Very bad.
Master Magic: 3.71, 3.56, 3.97, 3.46, 4.21 = 3.75
Clock: 2:03.91 [0:24], 18.34, 16.90, 15.88, 18.09 = 17.78
MegaMinx: 3:38.61, 3:19.30, 2:50.80, 2:31.63, 3:03.56 = 3:04.55
Pyraminx: 1:20.40, 11.88, 18.93, 11.75, 13.44 = 14.75
Square-1: 5:56.08 [3:05], 41.86, 35.43, 39.44 [P], 28.40 = 38.91
Skewb: 16.41, 17.43, 17.78, 13.55, 22.19 = 17.20
 
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2x2: 2.37, 2.95, 2.95, 3.17, 3.03 = 2.98
3x3: 11.02, 9.16, 9.50, 9.87, 14.18 = 10.13 POP on the last one :(
4x4: 53.62, 54.36, 49.64, 47.66, 58.70 = 52.54 Maru :(
5x5: 1:35.46, 1:34.21, 1:30.85, 1:19.65, 1:34.24 = 1:33.10 PB single :)
6x6: 3:35.66, 3:28.12, 3:29.09, 3:29.10, 3:41.20 = dunno what the average is
7x7: 6:32.13, 6:35.67, 5:46.35, 6:10.30, 6:03.64 = 6:15.36 3rd solve was epic
2x2 BLD: 8.21, 12.78+, DNF = 8.21 easy
3x3 BLD: DNF(2:30.79), DNF(2:55.29), DNF(2:57.08) = DNF argh
4x4 BLD: DNF(10.52.44) = DNF I didn't even try to memo the last half of the edges on the first solve. It was too hard. I ended up with 14 solves centers and no solved corners. (did a rotation in the middle of the execution of the centers)
3x3 OH: 15.84, 14.83, 17.43, 14.53, 21.72 = 16.03
3x3 WF: 2:52.66, 2:45.78, 2:34.25, 2:42.50, 2:41.00 = 2:43.09
3x3 MTS: 57.17, 1:01.37, 1:09.16, 1:09.81, 53.95 = 1:02.56 wtf
2-4 relay: 1:00.78
2-5 relay: 2:48.86
Clock: 12.21, 10.36, 8.80, 11.06, 11.91 = 11.11
Megaminx: 1:55.58, 2:17.91, 1:38.80, 2:05.31, 1:59.81 = 2:00.13
Pyraminx: 6.78, 5.69, 6.18, 5.00, 9.86 = 6.22
Square-1: 29.63, 23.65, 20.21, 28.61, 27.93 = 26.73
Skewb: 15.83, 28.15, 18.96, 11.33, DNF = 20.98

3x3 FMC: 42
Scramble: U B2 L B2 D L D2 L F2 L2 R' D2 B' R' F' D L2

2x2: FU'B2U'D2R'U
2x2x3: D2B'LBUBD'B'U'
F2L: D'F'LDL'R'D2R2F'R'F
LL: z2FU2F2U'F2U'F2U2LF'R2FL'F'R2F2
1 move cancels
 
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2x2x2 : 6.15 , (6.25) , (5.05) , 5.05 , 5.41 = 5.54
3x3x3 : 14.47 , 18.44 , 16.00 , 16.41 , 16.38 = 16.26
4x4x4 : 58.52 , (1:07.16) , (48.16) , 52.41 , 53.30 = 54.74
5x5x5 : (2:34.93) , 2:26.00 , (2:01.05) , 2:12.81 , 2:09.38 =2:16.06
6x6x6 : 3:59.18 , 4:21.97 , 4:03.86 , 4:23.83 , DNS =
7x7x7 :
2x2x2 Blindfolded : 39.11 , 27.55 , DNF = 27.55
3x3x3 Blindfolded : DNF , DNF , 3:22.15 = 3:22.15
3x3x3 One Handed : 52.03 , (37.27) , (53.65) , 50.81, 47.36 = 50.07
3x3x3 With Feet :
3x3x3 Match the scramble :
3x3x3 Fewest Moves :
2x2x2 + 3x3x3 + 4x4x4 Relay : 1:28.50
2x2x2 + 3x3x3 + 4x4x4 + 5x5x5 Relay: 3:34.40
Magic : (2.34) , 1.63 , 1.61 , 1.52 , (1.38) = 1.59
Clock :
MegaMinx :
PyraMinx : 16.75 , 14.53 , (21.83) , 18.02 , (13.06) = 16.43
 
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2x2 : 9.34, (8.77), 17.63, (19.13), 13.42 = 13.66
3x3 : 33.37, (58.94), 38.07, 44.91, (24.81) = 40.02
4x4 ; (03:27.72), 02:52.65, (02:16.49), 03:02.97, 02:54.15 = 2:54.80
 
3x3: 51.64 41.74 36.71 52.43 72.90 = 48.60 Not getting better....

2x2BLD: 28.13 36.29 dnf = 28.13
3x3BLD: dnf 2:53.18 1:47.13 = 1:47.13 ok
4x4BLD: dnf dnf dnf = DNF Sad
5x5BLD: dnf 14:53.51 dnf = 14:53.51 WOW, new PB Memo ca 8:20
First was 2 centers off. The last was even faster (14:10) but not good at all.
6x6BLD: dnf (41:19) = DNF 3 x-corners & 2 obliques
7x7BLD: dnf (71:57) = DNF Bad attempt (but fast)
Multi: 5/10 = 0 59:33, bad attempt too, I will quit trying to make 10 for a while (I think).
 
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4x4 BLD: DNF [13:42], 11:21 [5:30-ish]
first one had slow memo due to a noisy environment, but only three edges off which i forgot to memo. The second one also had really slow memo due to two memorisation errors. I was pretty sure I failed the execution somehow, so I was a bit surprised when I saw that I'd solved it.
 
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fmc: D' R U R' U B U2 B' U R' U' R U' B U' B' F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U (28)

NISS solve:
pre-scramble moves on normal scramble (found on inverse scramble giving F2L-1): [F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U ] - 12
F2L: D' R U R' (4+12)
LL: U B U2 B' U R' U' R U' B U' B' (16 + 12)
pre-scrmable correction: F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U (28)

longest prescramble I ever used, didn't know 12-move pre-scramble could help for a sub-30 solution

Gus
 
2x2: 9.14, 10.53, 6.32, 8.27+, 4.24 = 7.91
3x3: 28.30, 31.67, 26.69, 29.67, 31.48 = 29.82 :/
2x2 BLD: DNF, 1:55.35, 2:54.46 = 2:24.90 (third solve my dad called me :P)
3x3 BLD: 6:21.00, DNF, DNF = 6:21.00 (solved, mess, 2 corners twisted)
Pyraminx: 20.26, 27.94, 19.92, 10.17, 13.68 = 17.96 :/
Square-1: 1:45.55, 2:43.27, 1:59.85, 1:53.31, 1:37.80 = 1:52.90 (PB NL single and Ao5 :])
 
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guusrs said:
fmc: D' R U R' U B U2 B' U R' U' R U' B U' B' F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U (28)

NISS solve:
pre-scramble moves on normal scramble (found on inverse scramble giving F2L-1): [F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U ] - 12
F2L: D' R U R' (4+12)
LL: U B U2 B' U R' U' R U' B U' B' (16 + 12)
pre-scrmable correction: F R2 D B D' L' D' L2 U2 R' D U (28)

longest prescramble I ever used, didn't know 12-move pre-scramble could help for a sub-30 solution

Gus
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I remember Chris (Hardwick) once (weekly comp, about 3 years back) had a VERY long series of pre-moves as well. I always wondered if you read about that when you "came up" with NISS
 
Who am I to question the definition of Pre-moves and NISS with Guus???

But should we really still call this pre-moves?
As you mention you actually started with the inverse scramble to build the F2L-1
Then switched back to normal scramble making this an "INSS" if you like.
Otherwise we could call a full solution based on a reverse scramble one big string of pre-moves instead of an actual solution.

I like the term pre-move more for the situation as in Irontwigs solution earlier in this thread; you run into a nice pseudo-blockand then go back to apply the "un-pseudo" moves as pre-scramble. Even though in this specific case Irontwig did not write them down as actual pre-moves.
 
AvGalen said:
I remember Chris (Hardwick) once (weekly comp, about 3 years back) had a VERY long series of pre-moves as well. I always wondered if you read about that when you "came up" with NISS
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Hi Arnaud
No, I didn't.
I wonder how Chris came up with these pre-moves. I will search for his solution.....
Gus
 
Cubenovice said:
Who am I to question the definition of Pre-moves and NISS with Guus???

But should we really still call this pre-moves?
As you mention you actually started with the inverse scramble to build the F2L-1
Then switched back to normal scramble making this an "INSS" if you like.
Otherwise we could call a full solution based on a reverse scramble one big string of pre-moves instead of an actual solution.

I like the term pre-move more for the situation as in Irontwigs solution earlier in this thread; you run into a nice pseudo-blockand then go back to apply the "un-pseudo" moves as pre-scramble. Even though in this specific case Irontwig did not write them down as actual pre-moves.
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Is this a question? If so, I didn't understand.
My opinion is that NISS always deals with pre-moves but using pre-moves doesn't mean you use NISS.

Gus
 
guusrs said:
My opinion is that NISS always deals with pre-moves but using pre-moves doesn't mean you use NISS.

Gus
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Yes, that is a very true statement.

Perhaps I am just making things too complicated.
What I was trying to say
If you had not mentioned that you found the premoves via ( inverse scramble upto F2L-1) I would have assumed:
- that you made some sort of pseudo-block
- went back and applied pre-moves to make it a regular block
- continued from there.

But actually you started with the inverse scramble and applied the NISS technique.

In posting my (few) NISS solves on here I did not refer to the moves found via NISS as "premoves" as I did not really think about these as being pre-moves.
But in fact they are, as you put it very well in your post.

I just got a little confused by the use of the term "pre-moves".

LOL at how difficult some things are to put down in writing...
But all is clear now, I really should think of the Switches in NISS as generators of pre-moves.
 
FMC: (28)

D2L’UL2D’L2U2B2U’B2RBL’F’UBF’L’F’D’LUD’B’UB2U2D’
D2L’UL2D’L2U2B2U’B2RB (12) all corners, and 4 edges,
L’F’UBF’L’F’ (7/19) more 2 edges,
D’LUD’B’UB2U2D’ (9/28) 6E4C.
 
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