Weekly competition 2008-33

This is my solution so far in 20 minutes.

Fewest Moves:

Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F

Solution: D2 F U' F2 U B' D' B D2 R D2 U R U' D' R2 D B' D' R D' (21)

2x2x2 Block: D2 F U' F2 U (5)
Psuedo 223: B' D' B D2 R D2 (11)
Psuedo Tripple-X: U R U' D' R2 D (17)
Undo psuedonesss leaving 2 corners and 2 edges: B' D' R D' (21)

I hate parity.
 
MistArts said:
This is my solution so far in 20 minutes.

Fewest Moves:

Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F

Solution: D2 F U' F2 U B' D' B D2 R D2 U R U' D' R2 D B' D' R D' (21)

2x2x2 Block: D2 F U' F2 U (5)
Psuedo 223: B' D' B D2 R D2 (11)
Psuedo Tripple-X: U R U' D' R2 D (17)
Undo psuedonesss leaving 2 corners and 2 edges: B' D' R D' (21)

I hate parity.
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You scared me for a second! I thought you finished with 21 moves! Well, this is still pretty nice. But fixing this parity looks difficult.
 
2x2 10.63, 7.77, 14.81, 20.08, 13.30= 12.82

3x3 31.81, 27.30, 39.75, 31.22, 31.86= 31.63

3x3 OH 1:34.03, 1:44.13, 1:45.93, 1:37.09, 1:19.47= 1:38.42

4x4 2:35.36, 2:35.75, 2:48.06, 2:29.30, 2:13.69= 2:33.47
the 2:13 was a new single and the avg is a new pb avg too!! =]
5x5

Magic 11.84, 13.03, 9.06, 9.91, 10.71= 10.82
new pb avg!
234

2345
 
2x2: (7.68), 9.59, 8.58, 8.17, (10.01) = 8.78
Bad

3x3: 19.90, 17.22, (21.21), 20.65, (15.75) = 19.26
Average, nice non-lucky 15.75.

4x4: 1:20.21 (O), 1:38.93 (OP), 1:42.65 (OP), (1:17.38) (O), (1:45.59) (O) = 1:33.93
Bad.

3x3 OH: 45.13, (53.02), 45.75, (44.40), 45.83 = 45.33
I don't practise.

234 Relay: 2:13.27

FM:
Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F
Solution: 39 moves.

2x2x2: B L B2 D F' (5)
2x2x3: R'B' R U R2 U' R' B' U (14)
F2L + OLL: B' R2 D' R2 D R2 B'R2 D' R D R'D'R D (29)
PLL: B2 U' B D2 B' U B D2 B2 R (39)

I never do FM except sometimes in the weekly competition.
 
2: 3.66 10.59 2.94 3.22 2.47 = 3.27 nice

3: 13.31 14.94 14.66 14.50 12.09 = 14.16 good

4: 1:05.53 56.69 59.06 O 1:08.28 P 1:03.97 O = 1:02.85 ok

5: 1:53.81 1:54.25 1:40.31 2:06.97 1:52.71 = 1:53.59 no warmup

2BLD: 24.90 20.44 30.36 = 30.44

3BLD:

MultiBLD:

3OH: 29.94 28.33 25.69 29.72 26.40 = 28.15 ok


234Relay: 1:29.78 bad
2: 0:05
4: 1:08 OP
3: 0:16

2345Relay: 3:18.18 good
2: 0:04
5: 1:56 : (
4: 1:04 P
3: 0:14
 
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philkt731 said:
2: 3.66 10.59 2.94 3.22 2.47 = 3.27 nice

3: 13.31 14.94 14.66 14.50 12.09 = 14.16 good
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whoa! 10.59? what part of it did you mess up? i know it was a crappy scramble but thats like 3 entire solves for you. i lucked out and saw this first layer on the first color i tried, and it led into a PBL skip. of course this is ortega not guimond.

scramble: B' L' B' L2 U2 R2 U' R2 D' L2 F2 L D' L' F U' L' F2 U R D' L F2 D' F

FL: x F2 R F' U F2 (5)
OLL: y R U R' U' R' F R F' (13)
PLL: U2 (14)

strangely enough i think this solution saved my average.
 
2x2: 4.40, (6.56), 4.80, 4.59, (4.05)= 4.60 2x2 is silly.
3x3: 13.09, 13.27, 13.78, (16.38), (12.34)= 13.38 I can dig it.
3x3 OH: 26.84, 29.81, (20.22), (30.08), 25.40= 27.35 So I guess my brain felt like saying, "Let's be normal, then crap, then good, then crap, then normal." =[
4x4: (49.52...NICE!!!), 1:00.36, (1:10.78)(OP), 1:00.44(P), 1:05.59(O)= 1:02.13 A LOT of 4x4 practice this weekend. I guess it payed off. =]
5x5: 1:49.47, 2:09.72, (2:14.93), 1:52.38, (1:47.02)= 1:57.19 WHAT!?! I haven't even touched a 5x5 this weekend and I do this!?! I guess my 4x4 practice REALLY improved my 5x5...

Wow, really good comp this week. =]

I'll probably start sucking now with school starting though. =[
 
Vault312 said:
philkt731 said:
2: 3.66 10.59 2.94 3.22 2.47 = 3.27 nice

3: 13.31 14.94 14.66 14.50 12.09 = 14.16 good
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whoa! 10.59? what part of it did you mess up? i know it was a crappy scramble but thats like 3 entire solves for you. i lucked out and saw this first layer on the first color i tried, and it led into a PBL skip. of course this is ortega not guimond.

scramble: B' L' B' L2 U2 R2 U' R2 D' L2 F2 L D' L' F U' L' F2 U R D' L F2 D' F

FL: x F2 R F' U F2 (5)
OLL: y R U R' U' R' F R F' (13)
PLL: U2 (14)

strangely enough i think this solution saved my average.
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yeah I have no idea what happened. I thought I saw all the way to PBL like usual from inspection but, it didn't get it. then when I tried to fix it, it didn't again. finally i finished orienting at like 9 seconds :)
 
Jacco said:
FM:
Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F
Solution: 39 moves.

2x2x2: B L B2 D F' (5)
2x2x3: R'B' R U R2 U' R' B' U (14)
F2L + OLL: B' R2 D' R2 D R2 B'R2 D' R D R'D'R D (29)
PLL: B2 U' B D2 B' U B D2 B2 R (39)

I never do FM except sometimes in the weekly competition.
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(these are just guidelines)
Well, 5 moves for a 2x2x2 is pretty good. 9 moves more for a 2x2x3 is way to much. 15 moves for final cross piece, 2 pairs and OLL is good. PLL is a short one, but because it is a 3-cycle of pieces that don't change any other pieces you could fix those 3 pieces at any time during the solve (this is called an insertion). A 3-cycle of corners can often be done in 8 moves (3+1+3+1 or 1+3+1+3 commutator) and you get 2 moves cancelled on average by trying to insert it on different moments.

Once you get the concept of insertions you will often be able to manipulate the last layer during your F2L so only 3 edges, 4 edges or 3 corners need fixing (fixing means orient and permute). That way you don't have to use OLL+PLL and you can save a lot of moves. The shortest OLL+PLL would be 6+9. Fixing 3 or 4 edges can be done in 6 (but 8 is more likely) and 3 corners can be done in 8 (and you with cancellations that becomes even less).

I have some recent examples here: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76389&postcount=90
 
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MistArts said:
This is my solution so far in 20 minutes.

Fewest Moves:

Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F

Solution: D2 F U' F2 U B' D' B D2 R D2 U R U' D' R2 D B' D' R D' (21)

2x2x2 Block: D2 F U' F2 U (5)
Psuedo 223: B' D' B D2 R D2 (11)
Psuedo Tripple-X: U R U' D' R2 D (17)
Undo psuedonesss leaving 2 corners and 2 edges: B' D' R D' (21)

I hate parity.
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I give up!

I thought about doing F2 and then a Y-perm on the L slice....but my Y-perm alg is too long.

So....here's optimal Y-perm

z y L2 U' B2 D' B2 U B D B' L2 F U' F' (L2 after)

The F2 will cancel out z y L2 so the solution would be 35 moves.
 
Everything but Snake again. I really need to get one.

Mike Hughey:

2x2x2: 11.27, 12.75, 11.43, 12.97, 11.77 = 11.98
3x3x3: 25.25, 26.03, 31.83, 27.19, 24.91 = 26.16
Comment: Wow – hard to believe I’m the same person as the one who was turning in 45 second solves in Cincinnati on Saturday! Why couldn’t I have done this there?
4x4x4: 1:52.64 (O), 1:58.31 (P), 1:58.89 (OP), 1:48.01, 2:03.33 (OP) = 1:56.61
5x5x5: 2:58.08, 2:56.67, 2:54.81, 2:53.67, 2:55.53 = 2:55.67
Comment: Wow – consistent. And pretty good times for me.
6x6x6: 6:33.71 (P), 6:40.88, 6:46.86 (OP), 6:51.93 (OP), 6:41.81 (P) = 6:43.18
Comment: Again – surprisingly consistent.
7x7x7: 10:38.54, 9:33.64, 10:14.17, 9:28.93, 10:05.67 = 9:57.83
Comment: Yay - my first sub-10 average! (Barely.)
2x2x2 BLD: 46.47, 38.33, DNF (54.05) = 38.33
3x3x3 BLD: 2:34.44, 2:51.55, 2:06.21 = 2:06.21
4x4x4 BLD: DNF (11:38.09, 6:16), DNF (11:32.87, 6:11), 9:53.71 (4:51) = 9:53.71
Comment: First one off by 3 wings – cycled the wrong direction. Second one off by 2 corners – forgot to do parity (such a stupid mistake!).
5x5x5 BLD: DNF (20:33.29, 10:44), 25:31.17 (12:00), 19:35.38 (9:33) = 19:35.38
Comment: First one off by two wings – mismemorized. Nice to finally get a couple of these in a row again!
6x6x6 BLD: 50:18.69 (23:06), DNS, DNS = 50:18.69
Comment: The one I posted about on the Accomplishment Thread earlier. Very nice to finally get one again, and I’m very happy with the time. The next time I try this I’ll have new stickers, so maybe I can improve some more!
7x7x7 BLD: DNF (3:39:43.95, 1:50:00), DNF (3:39:43.95, 1:50:00), DNS = DNF
Comment: The result of my first 7x7x7 multi attempt. First one off by 3 centrals and 3 inner +; second one off by 3 centrals, 4 inner wings, 6 obliques, 3 inner +, 7 inner X.
3x3x3 multiBLD: 6/6 = 6 points, 40:57.11 (27:06 memorization)
Comment: Starting to work back towards real numbers now. I still haven’t DNFed a cube in 3x3x3 multi since Nationals. (There, I jinxed myself – now I’m sure I’ll miss something next week! :))
3x3x3 OH: 53.16, 1:01.84, 53.38, 53.09, 53.30 = 53.28
3x3x3 WF: 2:50.15, 2:36.06, 2:29.09, 2:09.03, 3:25.83 = 2:38.43
Comment: I was sub-2 on the last one, but I messed up the PLL and had to redo F2L.
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 2:33.02, 2:17.09, 1:58.25, 2:00.38, 1:54.19 = 2:05.24
Comment: I’m getting better at this, but it seems like every week I need to relearn it to some degree – my times seem to get substantially better with each solve for a given week.
2-4 Relay: 3:03.85 (O)
2-5 Relay: 5:46.34 (OP)
2-6 Relay: 13:43.43 (OP, O)
2-7 Relay: 24:14.66 (OP, P)
Magic: 2.28, 2.09, 2.16, 2.66, 2.66 = 2.37
Master Magic: 5.43, 4.33, 4.19, 4.63, 4.52 = 4.49
Snake: Still don’t have one. Ugh – I can’t believe I didn’t think to ask around at Cincinnati to see if someone could let me borrow one to do 5 solves for this week’s competition. Perfect opportunity to do all events this week wasted. :(
Clock: 27.25, 28.33, 27.09, 25.75, 28.55 = 27.56
MegaMinx: 3:35.40, 3:01.99, 3:42.27, 3:26.13, 3:14.40 = 3:25.31
Pyraminx: 31.30, 26.91, 25.27, 30.53, 28.36 = 28.60
Square-1: 1:17.95, 56.70, 1:11.86 (P), 1:16.30 (P), 1:08.45 (P) = 1:12.20
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 33 moves
Comment: See earlier post that contained the solution.
4x4x4 Fewest Moves: 82 moves
Comment: Wheeeee!!!!! :) (See #39 below for solution.)
 
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Nice work on the feet solving Mr. Hughey, you're still improving well!
Well done Mr. Hardwick on the 7x7x7 BLD too!

2x2x2: 14.83 28.38 16.34 17.09 18.13 => 17.19

3x3x3: 21.98 16.13 19.89 24.92 19.00 => 20.29

3x3x3_OH: 41.99 DNF 34.11 37.48 40.50 => 39.99

3x3x3_feet: 1:58.06 1:39.50 3:37.42 1:27.70 1:36.52 => 1:44.69
On the third one I messed up an OLL with a silly mistake, fixed it, and had a different OLL. I then proceeded to screw that one up on a silly mistake, fixed it and got the same one, did the same mistake again, fixed it the same way, and on the third time got it right. 4 times OLL, not fun. I also got the Y-perm 3 out of 5 solves, which is a reasonable one so that's ok :).
Wow, I just realised that I've been really slacking off on feet lately, these could easily have been faster. These times were motivated by Mr. Nakajima. This is one WR he won't have!

4x4x4: 1:43.38 1:33.86 1:44.53 1:39.66 1:35.58 => 1:39.54
My ES will be here any day now, then we'll see how I can really perform.

5x5x5: 2:40.30 1:57.75 2:10.61 2:29.89 2:27.06 => 2:22.52
OOOOOOOOH YEA!!!!!! Sub2 :) Something funny happened in the edges in the last one. I thought I had done 8, but I think I had only actually done 6, or else I screwed something up while doing the last 4.

7x7x7: 7:44.63 7:21.52 7:13.14 7:00.97 7:41.73 => 7:25.46
Good times, that lubing really helped! Every solve next week sub7 :)

My 6x6x6 is still out of action.
 
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MistArts said:
MistArts said:
This is my solution so far in 20 minutes.

Fewest Moves:

Scramble: B2 U R2 B2 U' R2 U L2 R2 F2 U' F2 R U F' D L2 B U' R2 F

Solution: D2 F U' F2 U B' D' B D2 R D2 U R U' D' R2 D B' D' R D' (21)

2x2x2 Block: D2 F U' F2 U (5)
Psuedo 223: B' D' B D2 R D2 (11)
Psuedo Tripple-X: U R U' D' R2 D (17)
Undo psuedonesss leaving 2 corners and 2 edges: B' D' R D' (21)

I hate parity.
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I give up!

I thought about doing F2 and then a Y-perm on the L slice....but my Y-perm alg is too long.

So....here's optimal Y-perm

z y L2 U' B2 D' B2 U B D B' L2 F U' F' (L2 after)

The F2 will cancel out z y L2 so the solution would be 35 moves.
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I don't know many algs, but I think I use the (mirrored) inverse of that one for speedsolving. I perform it like (L' U' L) (F2 R' D) (R U) (R2 D') (R2 U' y' R2')
 
Okay, so this is pretty amazing for me:

Mike Hughey:
4x4x4 Fewest Moves: 82 moves :D :D :D
Rw’ R’ Dw’ L Dw2 U F2 Rw’ R’ D Bw’ D2 Bw B Uw B F’ R2 Uw’ R2 Uw’ L’ Dw2 R Dw2 R’ Dw2 R2 L U L’ Dw2 Uw’ F’ U2 F Uw R Fw2 R’ B’ R Fw2 F’ Rw2 U’ L2 U Rw2 R U L2 B U2 D’ L2 F2 L2 F L2 F’ D F’ D L D L’ F D’ F’ D R’ D2 L U’ L’ D2 L U L’ D’ R
centers: Rw’ R’ Dw’ L Dw2 U F2 Rw’ R’ D Bw’ D2 Bw
B Uw B F’ R2 Uw’ R2 Uw’
L’ Dw2 R Dw2 R’ Dw2 R2 L U L’ Dw2
edges: Uw’ F’ U2 F Uw
R Fw2 R’ B’ R Fw2
F’ Rw2 U’ L2 U Rw2
3x3x3: R U L2 B U2
3x3x4: D’ L2 F2 L2 F L2
3x cross: F’ D F’ D L D L’
4th pair, plus all but three corners(!): F D’ F’ D R’ . D’ R
insert at .: D2 L U’ L’ D2 L U L’
There’s also a cancellation between the end of the centers and start of the edges (Dw2 Uw’), but I didn’t have time to rewrite everything to accommodate it. So that would really be 81 moves. I’m disappointed I didn’t have time to find a canceling insertion – I’m betting there’s a good one there somewhere, but I was just about out of time. 49 moves for reduction, then 33 moves for the 3x3x3 – if only they could always be this great! I have a feeling this is the best I will do at this for a very very long time.
 
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