Cubeologist
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Here are cases 11 and 12. Hope you all enjoy. Any thoughts on how I should approach or organize the dot cases?
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[video] Full OLL Tutorial Series
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TDM
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How I would do it:
Take out pair, sledgehammer, U2, sledgehammer
(R U2 R') (R' F R F') U2 (R' F R F')
(R U R' U) (R' F R F') U2 (R' F R F')
F sexy F' (twice) stuff
(F R U R' U' F') (f R U R' U' f')
(f R U R' U' f') U' (F R U R' U' F')
(f R U R' U' f') U (F R U R' U' F')
Two wide sunes/antisunes
[y'] (r U R' U R U2 r') (r' U' R U' R' U2 r)
[y2] (r U2 R' U' R U' r') (r' U2 R U R' U R)
These are just my algs, and there are probably better ones, but they are very easy to learn and are also easy to execute decently fast.
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mark49152
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@TDM: typo - those first two should end U2 R'FRF' instead of RU2R'
Cubeologist
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Wow. I am impressed. I am for sure going to take your advice. At least with organization. But most of these are the algs I use anyway. So I'll try the ones you recommend that are different and I may switch it up before I do that video. I will give you credit for sure. Thank you sir.
TDM
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Oops, fixed.
I'm sure there are better algs for the two wide sune/antisune cases, but these work for just learning them at least. This is how I learned them.
guysensei1
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I use
R U2 R2 F R F' U2 M' U R U' r' (combination of previous dot cases and the H OLL)
S' R U R' S U' R' F R F' (from Teller, but I can't fingertrick this well and haven't bothered to learn a new one)
mark49152
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You missed the all corners solved case...
Generally I like TDM's approach. Learning OLL is much easier if you're aware of patterns and groups, both in the cases (piece arrangements) and the algs.
For seeing case patterns, it's helpful to understand that every case is a combination of the same edge and corner patterns from 2-look. For example, look at the squares and small lightning bolts. They are just sunes and anti-sunes at the corners combined with an L for the edges. So it makes sense that their algs are just sunes and anti-sunes with added M setup moves to affect the edges. Knowing that makes them easier to recognise, orient, and associate with an alg.
Also, one bit of feedback on your videos: I think usually people who are ready to learn full OLL will already be at the level of proficiency that they appreciate learning algs by triggers and patterns as TDM describes rather than sequences of invididual moves broken down at an even 1 tps. You often show those patterns by parentheses in the text alg, but in some of the vids I found it frustrating to follow what you're doing when done so slowly - e.g. "do R', then F, then R, then F'..." instead of "sledgehammer".
TDM
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why do i fail so muchYou missed the all corners solved case...
(r U R' U') M2 (U R U' R') U' M'
according to algdb.net the inverse is popular too
M U (R U R' U') M2 (U R U' r')
first trigger is sexy, second is inverse sexy
mark49152
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Yeah I prefer the second as I'm a left hand M-slicer. There was a cool alg posted in the alg thread recently using S moves but I can't remember or find it now.
Edit: R2 S' R2 U' S2 U' R2 S' R2. Flows nicely if you start with thumb on DBR and ring on UBR and use right index to pull S' upwards, index/middle double flick downwards for S2.
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TDM
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I hate that alg
Too many S moves. S2, really? I'm bad enough at M moves...
Cubeologist
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I completely understand what you are saying. That is how I memorize the cases. I have actually been asked to slow down though haha. Which I am not sure is possible because I already go at a snail's pace. But there are two reasons that I do keep them at a slow speed: I already group the triggers with parentheses and highlight them as much as I can, and I assume that it is easier to skip ahead with the indicators in the top corners telling what case that I am currently covering. At least easier than trying to pause the video every 5 seconds if you are falling behind.
But I will definitely take that into consideration. This is my first series of videos, and I am absolutely still learning every day. But I do not plan on stopping any time soon, and all feedback is very appreciated.
This is the algorithm that I use. For some reason it was the one that I learned in the 2-look oll tutorial that I watched. And also I do M' moves with my left hand.
I hate that alg
I wish I were better at S moves. I still can't find a comfortable and quick way to stop the front layer from turning as well as the S layer. But when I can get that down, there are a bunch of algs that I want to incorporate. Like Teller's tricked out version.
guysensei1
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I think I found out a trick...
Put your right thumb on the F center at a 45 degree angle like you normally would, and put your left index on the U layer sticker on ULF. This should keep the F face steady for the S/S' moves.
Cubeologist
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That definitely works. I just need to be a bit more flexible with my left hand. That should come soon enough though because I am practicing OH solving haha. Thank you for the suggestion.
And here is the next episode by the way. Everyone enjoy the last 2 OLL's before we start tackling the dot cases.
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Cubeologist
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Here are the first 3 dot cases that we are covering. Thank you to TDM for suggesting the organization for these next episodes. We're almost there guys, two episodes away from full OLL.
Quick question. Since I have started this series, I have improved a lot of things about my videos: audio, organization, etc. Do you think it would be worthwhile in the long run to go back and remake the first few? Just a thought.
Hope you all enjoy!
Quick question. Since I have started this series, I have improved a lot of things about my videos: audio, organization, etc. Do you think it would be worthwhile in the long run to go back and remake the first few? Just a thought.
Hope you all enjoy!
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NooberCuber
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I know full OLL already but i still enjoy your series
and I've learned some good alternate algs and fingertricks so thank you for making it
I was wondering if you have covered cases 49 and 50 yet
I use these two algs for them
49 r U' r2 U r2 U r2 U' r
50 r' U r2 U' r2' U' r2 U r'
and I've learned some good alternate algs and fingertricks so thank you for making it
I was wondering if you have covered cases 49 and 50 yet
I use these two algs for them
49 r U' r2 U r2 U r2 U' r
50 r' U r2 U' r2' U' r2 U r'
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guysensei1
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Huh. It does look like he missed them!
I use those algs too.
Also, if you did miss them, I suggest TellerWest's execution. I cant get the link now, but browse his channel and you'll find it.
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Cubeologist
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guysensei1
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I can't see the image.
Cubeologist
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I am having a difficult time uploading the image for some reason. I click the 'add image' button, then 'from computer' and then I select the file and hit upload and it will not show up in the reply box. That was my poor attempt at just coding it in myself haha. Any suggestions?
