V6 / V-Cube 6x6x6 Mod thread

[watermelon]

I was wondering if those of you who have tried out various mods on your V-Cube 6x6x6 could post your experiences/times in this thread.

On a side note, I personally haven't tried any mods yet, and wanted to see if it was possible to get fast times without modding, or if modding was necessary for good times.

Thanks for your help!

 

[masterofthebass]

Well... i've done only 2 mods. the fisrst one was just sanding the largest internal pieces flat. That improved the p
outer slices immensely, but left the inner slices pretty mediocre. I loved the cube and was actually able to speedaolve it witbout the worries of popping, I then tried scott bedard's mod. that was a complee failure. I absolutely hated it. Luckily MeMyself&Pi had amod that was similar wnough to scott's that i was able to salvage the cube. Thepin mod is just great. I've done it on 2 6x6xs. The first one turned out great, but the second had some small issues with the pins, I think that I have fixed it and am pretty happy with it. If you can follow directions pretty well, I suggest doing the pin mod. the first mod is pretty easy to do and improves the puzzle a bunch.

 

[crazyasianskills]

I did the Dene mod, which is sanding down the corners, and edge center pieces (I guess you could call them that, not sure what they are) and I do not have to worry about popping so much anymore, I rarely get pops in a solve, and if I do, it is always easy to fix.

 

[TheJoker]

hello sir... is there any links to the other mod??? like can you point to a link to where we can find other mod...???

as i only find the PIN MOD... but where is the other mod links...???

thanks a lot...???

and i search the forum... no luck finding any V6 MOD... even google... i would like to compare which is the best MOD out there...

 

[TheJoker]

6x6 pin mode... Question...???

hello sir... all to those mod their V6 with PIN MOD by memyself&pi...

i follow the instruction well... and ended up with a great V6... and i love it... no doubt about that... reduce my time by 30 seconds... getting consistent result...

but i have a little, if not big concerned... cuz V6 is expensive... and the PIN MOD make this V6 more greater...

i'm asking MEMYSELF&PI and to those other who mod their V6 with PIN MOD...

the 4 centers surrounding the screw underneath where the pin glued... and all 24 of them is cheaping some plastic... scratching at the tip of the center... i don't know how to describe it... but i hope you get it...

when i clean my v6 and i found out that all 24 of them at the tip all have scratches... what i'm concerned is... as this is a expensive cube... what it make it after a month or two months of use... it seems the damage/scratches is getting large... every time i turn the outer layer...

is it normal... should i leave at that and use the cube as if nothing happened underneath...

hope you guys can enlightened me about it...

thanks a lot... hehehehhehe...

 

[Vulosity]

You can cut the pins a TINY bit shorter, but not so much that the pins become useless.

btw, are you trying to type like the Joker?

 

[TheJoker]

thanks... but i cut it short enough to not loose it function for the misalignment... but it still making scratches on those tip of the 24 centers...

hope the damage will not make the v6 render useless over the time of use... this is expensive cube... you know what i mean...

also hoping memyself&pi and others could explain the long term effect of this damage...

OT...
this is me since the computer chat invented... leaving 3 period/dot at every sentences... didn't know THE JOKER is typing like this... but it is great if it is... cuz he is my favorite comic villain... ever since... and use this NICK on every forum/chat i got into since 1996 starting on BBS time using dialup modem up to now... TheJoker... hehehehehe...

 

[dougbenham]

I had a similar question. I supplied this picture to memyselfandpi:

He said that those pins would be much too long. They should be very very small nubs just barely enough to touch the center pieces. The combined friction of all 4 pins scraping against each of the center pieces is enough to keep the cube core in alignment.

My solution was the following:
First leave the pins long. Do a couple turns and if you can visibly see shavings from your cube falling out, open the cube up and trim the pins down more. Repeat continuously until there is very little shavings. However, there should be some scraping at least, because this means that there is some friction happening here. Don't worry about the cube though, it should be fine. I haven't heard of many people ruining their cube this way.

 

[dougbenham]

Here I changed the picture to show a picture from the inside of the cube:

The R stands for the screw rivet.

This is what the pins should look like. Just barely enough to touch the centers.

 

[TheJoker]

yup... that what i did... make the pin small enough for the misalignment... turns well... but still scraping some plastic...

well okay... since you assured me it has no effect at all... at least i'm at ease now...

love my my cube now...

thanks alot... heheheheheh...

 

[TheJoker]

hope this is not considered as a double post... just adding one more question...

as i solved my v6 earlier... i encounter 2 misalignment... just little misalign... it move a little bit and i can't turn my cube... if i gave a ratio of my solve...

it happened twice in 20 solves... is it normal for this pin mod that you have a misalign sometimes... are you experiencing it also...

cuz as memyself&pi said on his video... the glued thing reduces 67%... and the four pin reduces the remaining 33%... so 100% it won't misalign... but it happened to twice... but a little bit and that's enough to not able make a turn unless you put it back... and it is a little hard to align it...

anybody could explain it... MEMYSELF&PI... hope you read this...

thanks a lot... hehehehehhe...

 

[masterofthebass]

OMG STOP WITH THE ELLIPSES! it makes your posts lose 100% of its value instantly. I use ellipses fairly often, but I mean... come on.

 

[dougbenham]

OMG STOP WITH THE ELLIPSES! it makes your posts lose 100% of its value instantly. I use ellipses fairly often, but I mean... come on.

yeah seriously.

as i solved my v6 earlier... i encounter 2 misalignment... just little misalign... it move a little bit and i can't turn my cube...

as long as you have done the following, you should not have any misalignment issues:

1. Strongly glued the 2 internal pieces to the center piece
2. Strongly glued the 4 pins into the appropriate screw rivets.

If you have any misalignment problems after you have applied the described modifications then there is a great probability that one of the internal pieces has lost its bond to the center piece (glue worn off) or pin(s) have fallen out of the screw rivets (glue worn off).



as long as you have done the following, you should not have any clicking issues:

1. Apply the misalignment mods.
2. Precisely trim off the bumps on the pieces displayed at 3:55 of the 2nd part of the modification video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7_7BNxOU5s)
3. Precisely trim off the bumps on the pieces displayed at 7:08 of the 1st part of the modification video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iznig98N6zA)

If you have any clicking problems after you have applied the described modifications then there is a great probability that you did not precisely trim off the bumps on the pieces. If necessary, use sand paper to get the bumps completely removed.

if i gave a ratio of my solve... it happened twice in 20 solves...

That would be a 1 to 10 ratio..

 

[TheJoker]

sorry. it just my habit for 20 years of computing. well will try my hard not to do it. again, sorry. thanks.

for the misalignment, it doesn't happened now. maybe i just turn the cube and made a mistake and it does misalign. but since yesterday no misalignment now.

i follow the instruction very well. in fact it took me 2 days to mod my cube as i don't want to make any mistake.

and again thanks a lot and i appreciate it very much. and again very sorry for the periods.

and if not too much. i would like to ask one more and last question. as i solved my v6, it always falling some white particle as if i have a dundruff falling off my head. is this normal also???

thanks a lot. heheheheheh.

 

[dougbenham]

and if not too much. i would like to ask one more and last question. as i solved my v6, it always falling some white particle as if i have a dundruff falling off my head. is this normal also???

I've already answered this question.. Here I will show you what I said:

However, there should be some scraping at least, because this means that there is some friction happening here.

 

[TheJoker]

and if not too much. i would like to ask one more and last question. as i solved my v6, it always falling some white particle as if i have a dundruff falling off my head. is this normal also???

I've already answered this question.. Here I will show you what I said:

However, there should be some scraping at least, because this means that there is some friction happening here.

ooopppsss... sorry... thanks again...

 

[TheJoker]

6x6x6 new mod... AKA PIN MOD...

hey guys... i found a new way to eliminate the misalignment totally...

thanks to MMP's pin mod... but this mod is not for a new V6... you have to break-in the cube... it must be loose enough... i tried it on my very loose V6 black...

you have to apply every step on MMP's pin mod... but except for the four (4) pin... i will explain it to you later... just bear with me...

the two pieces that glued on one of the center is actually reducing 83%... well it is my friend and i calculation... as i'm a computer engineer and he's a mechanical engineer...

here is the breakdown... we have 6 side... the two pieces that glued on the center... and let say we put it on TOP (U)... then this eliminate misalignment on L R F B... so only U D is left... which 4/6... or 2/3 which is 66.67%... correct me if i'm wrong...

you will encounter misalignment only on U D turn... or we can call it the bad slice as it was called on this thread... so that is what the 4 pin mod was for... eliminate the remaining misalign... as to our calculation... remove the 2/6 or 1/3 which 33.33%... it is a very good mod... but not 100% full proof... we can still encounter misalignment like in this thread...

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12224

but after some thinkering with my friend... we found out how to eliminate all the misalignment avoiding the PIN MOD which is an excellent idea... the bad slice or U D slice...

what we did is... take note... apply this to only a loose V6... or a V6 that break-in enough... as the tension on a new V6 is very hard... here is why... you can also revert this from MMP's PIN MOD... just remove the 4 pin and apply this mod...

here it goes...

remember the two pieces that glued on one center... you have to make it permanently and not moving by gluing it on the screw NOT ON THE CORE... GLUE ON THE SCREW... and we found out a better way to make it permanently and not moving but reversible in case you want to continue the PIN MOD of MMP...

here is you gonna do... align the screw diagonally to core... and find a small thin pin with a length of .3 inch well small enough to touch the screw and the center... then apply super glue...

here is some rough pictures...

you should align the screw and the center to the core like the top image... be more accurate with this... and be sure it was perfectly align to the core... you should know how to align this... especially the screw... as one of the tutorials of MMP's pin mod... you have to align 4 screw... and this mod... only one screw...

and the screw with the center should be look like at the middle image...

then the pin applied like the bottom image...

here is some tip to do this... apply the pin on the screw first... put some very reliable super glue... we found out that the more expensive is up to the task than the cheaper one... then let it dry for 30 minutes...

then align the center like the bottom image... then apply some super glue on it...

why we did it on this angle... because the center that be going in there whatever color it is will not be going anywhere or to any place... it will stuck in that corner with the two pieces glued on center... and since the center will not be moving... then the pin will be hidden neatly underneath... and will not cause any (more... if you applied already the MMP's pin mod first) to other centers...

well you must be using... again... a very good superglue here... cause this will replace the 4 pin mod...

then let it dry well give it more time to dry... let say 3 hours or more...

guys... you will amaze that it will not misalign anymore... JASON BAUM... on the other thread and others who encounter it a lot... like myself...

you can give it a try... just be sure to align the center to the core and follow the image supply for the pin... and USE a very good super glue...

well you can remove it... just apply some little force... and continue with MMP's pin mod... no harm done... as it was said earlier... it is reversible... it will not be permanent...

it is a very long post... but surely you all will be glad... i will some video on this... if i have some time... as it was only one tiny mod added to MMP's pin mod... which has a great tutorials with his mod...

so this will suffice this tiny mod...

thanks a lot... hehehehehehhehe...

 

[ThatGuy]

Ellipses...

 

[Dene]

Gluing the 2 inner pieces stops the misalignment on 2 slices. There are three slices. Therefore one third of the slices can still misalign. I really couldn't stand to read the post in much detail, so I can't comment on your idea.

 

[masterofthebass]

This mod does absolutely nothing... You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and if your friend the "mechanical engineer" came up with this and these values, he should really look at studying another profession.