US Nationals 2013 [Cancelled]

I think the St. Charles convention center would be nice, it's connected to an Embassy Suites so hotel access would be really nice. It is right off the highway and about 30 minutes away from downtown St. Louis and only 15 minutes from the airport. The venue is quite big, you can look at pictures and more information on their website. http://www.stcharlesconventioncenter.com/
 
I think the St. Charles convention center would be nice, it's connected to an Embassy Suites so hotel access would be really nice. It is right off the highway and about 30 minutes away from downtown St. Louis and only 15 minutes from the airport. The venue is quite big, you can look at pictures and more information on their website. http://www.stcharlesconventioncenter.com/

st. louis actually sounds like a really good idea. Looks like a nice convention center too.
 
With the highest concentration of cubers, the tri-state area would be a sensible choice.

You do realize there are many tri-state areas in the US, right?


Wait a second, you said he's wrong but posted a link that confirms what he said.


http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/takomaparkms/
Which is Takoma park middle school. they'd probably be happy to host and organize the competition.
They have school competitions themselves. We're in Maryland

Ooh! What about Random Pre-K School! Wait, they'd be happy to organize the competition, too? Well, we've been doing it wrong all these years. We usually have a staff of experienced cubers, but if we can get the staff of Takoma Park middle school to organize it, that will free us all up for the 3 days. That's exciting!
 
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Wait a second, you said he's wrong but posted a link that confirms what he said.

I don't think so. It shows the greatest concentration is the east coast, certainly, but the next greatest concentration is probably the midwest, around Chicago. California is third at best now.

Of course, admittedly, CubingUSA gets used more by Midwest competitors than others, so the results there are probably a little skewed, but the point is that the link does not confirm what he said.
 
i would still consider the chicago area north east or at least central, but definitely not mid west.
i would consider montana, wynoming as mid west. (for the northern us)

I'm using the commonly used definition of the "Midwestern United States".

If you look at Wikipedia's map, that includes Chicago, Ohio, and Minnesota, the three places with probably the greatest concentration of cubers in the area. This is clearly a "midwest" contingent of cubers, by the most commonly accepted definition.

Also, CubingUSA has cubers classified according to the four areas mentioned in the Wikipedia article: Northeast, Midwest, South, and West. (Probably because Bryan looked at the same article I did. :))

The reason for the geographical arrangement working like that is primarily population; this divides the country up into relatively equal population groups ("relatively" - the South has significantly more population than the other three areas, though). Places like Montana and Wyoming are too sparsely populated to belong to an area to themselves.
 
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I don't think so. It shows the greatest concentration is the east coast, certainly, but the next greatest concentration is probably the midwest, around Chicago. California is third at best now.

Of course, admittedly, CubingUSA gets used more by Midwest competitors than others, so the results there are probably a little skewed, but the point is that the link does not confirm what he said.

I'm not so sure about that. I count about 75 competitors in California, but only 40something around Chicago. It kind of depends how much of the midwest you want to count here.

The original statement was that most cubers are in the Northeast or California. It seems a bit unfair to compare California to the twelve states that compose the Midwest.


fair enough, i was just saying that in my opinion it is east/central.

Unfortunately, this isn't a matter of opinion. There is a definition of Midwest as defined by the US Census Bureau.
 
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In my opinion MOA would be highly difficult to have Nationals at.

I would have to agree with this, Chris. Yes, the mall is big and cool and all, but a convention center would be much more suited to a huge competition like this. The best buy rotunda was pretty sweet for comp though.

http://www.minneapolisconventioncenter.com/
The minneapolis convention center, on the other hand, _would_ be doable imo...

I will contact these folks....what should I give them for a ballpark estimate of people/how many days?
EDIT: I'll leave this up to 'you who I can't remember's name and should ...he who organizes MN events....' ...you know how to deal better. If you agree with me that the MCE would be cool
 
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For those of you looking into venues:

- The space should have 12,000+ sq. ft.
- The space should have stages for rent or included (at least enough stage for eight 4'x8' tables) with chairs on each side for judges.
- With 250 competitors, the expected attendance is 500+.

After having it in the grand ballroom at OSU, I really like the idea of having a large space like that instead of an auditorium. It was convenient having the side stage in the same room.
 
Absolutely. Having all the tables and chairs was a huge plus as well. How many were there? (roughly)

I think there were 21 of the larger tables (with approx. 175 seats), 30 of the smaller tables, roughly 100 seats for the side stage, and roughly 200 seats for the main stage. All in all, there were about 500 seats.

We would also need a couple additional rooms for storage of materials, long events (FMC/big BLD/multiBLD), etc.
 
I think there were 21 of the larger tables (with approx. 175 seats), 30 of the smaller tables, roughly 100 seats for the side stage, and roughly 200 seats for the main stage. All in all, there were about 500 seats.

To give you another idea, here's a draft of the OSU floorplan:
http://www.cubingusa.com/usnationals2011/Setup_081111_World_Cube_Associ.pdf
Some changes to this layout we made were to have 8 tables (not 7) on the stage, and adding a merchandise area in the bottom left corner. The room was about 11,500 sq. ft. And don't forget all the usable space in other rooms and around the building...
 
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