oprah62
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Sweet!
US Nationals 2011 planning thread
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Siraj A.
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Darn, I hope they'll let me in.
freshcuber
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NYC isn't really viable because it's an expensive city. There's a huge tourist attraction so the prices for the simple things (food, transportation, ect, ect) can get pretty pricey depending one when Nats are held. And yes, the public transit there is pretty fantastic ie:subway system but finding a venue would be hard to do and expensive.
I like the idea of Boston. It's got a great subway system and for people who drive to the competition the streets aren't nearly as crowded as a city like NYC.
I took a look at the cubingusa.com map and there are very few cubers on the western coast compared to the eastern coast. Although LA may have a high population of cubers there are a ton more in the NE. Once you get to about Kansas and Nebraska there are very few cubers for hundreds of miles. But to the east of that is the majority of cubers.
Edit: I didn't know they were in Boston. My bad
Not everyone can fly to competitions so it should also be in a location that a lot of people could drive to. Boston is within a one day drive for a fair amount of cubers and the ones who were going to fly anyway just book a different flight.
I like the idea of Boston. It's got a great subway system and for people who drive to the competition the streets aren't nearly as crowded as a city like NYC.
I took a look at the cubingusa.com map and there are very few cubers on the western coast compared to the eastern coast. Although LA may have a high population of cubers there are a ton more in the NE. Once you get to about Kansas and Nebraska there are very few cubers for hundreds of miles. But to the east of that is the majority of cubers.
Edit: I didn't know they were in Boston. My bad
Not everyone can fly to competitions so it should also be in a location that a lot of people could drive to. Boston is within a one day drive for a fair amount of cubers and the ones who were going to fly anyway just book a different flight.
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ShadenSmith
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It was just held in Boston.
Tyson
Veteran
...and take a picture with Victor Tsai at the venue.US Nationals 2011 Mystery Event #1: Find the venue
Nah, we're just deliberately keeping it a secret. Everyone knows the most successful competitions occur when nobody knows where it's held.
Implying Victor will be at the venue.
Oh, I never implied that he had any plans to be at the venue.
Well, I was thinking you just had to take a picture with Victor to win. I think the Colorado cubers might have the best shot at this.
ThumbsxUpx
Regular
Seattle is cross country for me lol. I'm saying I don't want it there for 2 reasons:
1: Obviously, it's not close to me. As a 13 year old kid, my mom would never let me go.
2: It rains SO FREAKIN' MUCH IN SEATTLE! I've been there before, and it rains SO MUCH.
Random side note:
It would probably be the sweetest cubing competion ever if you could have it at the top of the space needle...
1: Obviously, it's not close to me. As a 13 year old kid, my mom would never let me go.
2: It rains SO FREAKIN' MUCH IN SEATTLE! I've been there before, and it rains SO MUCH.
Random side note:
It would probably be the sweetest cubing competion ever if you could have it at the top of the space needle...
Bryan
Premium Member
The competition is planned on being inside.
freshcuber
Veteran
That doesn't solve the problem of competition accessibility to competitors. There's no way I could get cross country for a competition. When you don't have a drivers license or a car to get you there it's pretty hard to get to a competition a hundred miles away let alone cross country.
dannyz0r
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If you really wanted to go you'd find a way. The competition can't be close to everybody.
bluecloe45
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there are a lot of cubers in CA and a lot of cubers in NY,MA,MD etc somebody is going to have to travel more than 5 minutes
freshcuber
Veteran
That is very true but putting a competition in a city with 20 cubers that's not near other cubers is foolish. Putting it in a place with 4 cubers that's near 50 would be much better.
bluecloe45
Veteran
well tear tear for you if it's in CA
blade740
Mack Daddy
The fact is, a lot of people will need to travel regardless of where you hold it. Also, don't underestimate the number of cubers on the west coast (including a large portion of the organization team, I might add)
freshcuber said:
This makes complete sense. There are a lot of people that wouldn't be able to attend for the same exact reason if the competition was held close to you. The "problem of competition accessibility", as you put it, is unsolvable. But we've gotten around it every year so far. That's why most of us travel a long way to get to nationals every year. If you can't travel to where it is held, I suppose you can't attend. Maybe next year.
Dene
Premium Member
You have seriously got to be kidding like the competition was just held in Boston. It won't be held there again for 20 years while there are 50 or so other states to hold it in. (I'm assuming that only about 20 states are viable options).
freshcuber
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With that attitude then there'd be a lot of places that would make a fantastic venue but would he totally impractical. I realize that we'll never be able to get 100% of American cubers to nationals but 60% is a lot better than 20%. Everyone here says that one of the best things you can do is to go to a competition so you can meet people and learn more.
I'm not trying to get the competition five minutes away from where I live. It'd be nice but wouldn't be good for everybody. From everything I've seen having a competition in Seattle or LA wouldn't be a good location. Especially since LA has already hosted nationals once. Some people will always be excluded for reasons that are often out of their control but needlessly limiting the possible attendance is just selfish.
Dene your post did nothing to contribute to finding a viable place to hold the competition.
I'm not trying to get the competition five minutes away from where I live. It'd be nice but wouldn't be good for everybody. From everything I've seen having a competition in Seattle or LA wouldn't be a good location. Especially since LA has already hosted nationals once. Some people will always be excluded for reasons that are often out of their control but needlessly limiting the possible attendance is just selfish.
Dene your post did nothing to contribute to finding a viable place to hold the competition.
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Dene
Premium Member
Who was attempting to do that? The simple fact of the matter is that if you are a child and dependent on your parents to travel then you aren't going to be able to make it to nationals most of the time. Find other comps to get to.
Bryan
Premium Member
You realize that you can go to other competitions besides Nationals, right?
No one's really avoiding LA because it hosted Nationals 6 years ago, they're avoiding LA because Nationals were in California in 2009.
freshcuber
Veteran
There are other competitions people could go to but why would you want to put nationals in the same geographical area. If it was in California in '09 and The last one was on Boston a place like Tennessee would be good since it's not ridiculously close to either one of them. The odds of being able to go to nationals every year are extremely slim but switching the place so that different people get the opportunity to compete at nationals is a good idea.
Of course people can go to random competitions but going to nationals is a slightly bigger deal. That's like saying all competitions are the Olympics when we can all agree that the Olympics are a much bigger deal than other competitions
Of course people can go to random competitions but going to nationals is a slightly bigger deal. That's like saying all competitions are the Olympics when we can all agree that the Olympics are a much bigger deal than other competitions
janelle
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I'm not really sure if someone has already suggested this but if you guys haven't rule out Seattle yet, how about somewhere in the Seattle Center?
http://www.seattlecenter.com/booking/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou....62248,-122.352076&spn=0.027016,0.077162&z=14
It's accessible by public transportation. Here's from the Sea-Tac Airport.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...5&sspn=0.216508,0.617294&ie=UTF8&z=11&start=0
Also has several hotels nearby.
http://maps.google.com/maps?near=Se...619934,-122.351904&spn=0.025571,0.077162&z=14
http://www.seattlecenter.com/booking/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou....62248,-122.352076&spn=0.027016,0.077162&z=14
It's accessible by public transportation. Here's from the Sea-Tac Airport.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...5&sspn=0.216508,0.617294&ie=UTF8&z=11&start=0
Also has several hotels nearby.
http://maps.google.com/maps?near=Se...619934,-122.351904&spn=0.025571,0.077162&z=14
hiphopopottumus
Member
St. Louis is a really good place to hold the comp.! It is pretty much in the middle of the country, and if some people live in, say, the east coast, or in the mideast, that would be awesome, and they could come. All I know is that I live in southern Indiana, and there are tons of good cubers based there that can't afford flying over to California, or on the west coast. All of the good comps are in California, or over on the far coasts, which makes me, and tons of other poeple, mad.
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