Too much time for F2L....ive tried many tips none work!?

[iliastsa]

Hi guys.I started speedsolving 2 months ago and i have f2l problems.I spend too much time to find pieces and it takes me 25 sec usually to complete f2l and then an other 15 for oll and pll averaging to a 45 sec solve.I use only 2 algorithms for input(Ri,F,R,Fi) and
(R,Ui,Ri)and kinda of intuitive pairing.Any tips for my problem and/or advanced algs?

 

[5BLD]

You should average less than 8 moves per pair. Keep experimenting, by setting up the two basic cases, pairing, and inserting an already made pair. Just experiment. Any cases you have >11 moves, PM me I'll show you and explain how I solve it.
Remember. If you have a difficult case, go for a different pair but influencing the difficult one.

You've probably heard this a lot but turn slow and lookahead. As in, turn as fast as you can so that you don't pause. That may be 0.5tps, 3tps, 10tps... But don't pause at all. Don't look at what you're doing, instead watch the next pair and plan how it's gonna be solved.

If you go at just 1tps without hesitations your F2L will be sub-23 already.

 

[wontolla]

You should watch badmephisto's videos on F2L and cross. Also you can start learning PLLs and OLLs.

Here is a nice collection of algorithms: http://www.kungfoomanchu.com/#333

And 45sec in 2 months seems pretty fine to me. I don't think you have a "problem". Just keep practicing.

 

[LeighzerCuber]

Just keep looking for pieces and find efficent ways to pair them and insert them. Once you see the same cases over and over again you will know exactly what to do. F2l isn't something you get good at over night. It is the development of your conscious and sub conscious getting better at seeing pieces (then solving) and while solving seeing a different pair and solve that one etc. It's frustrating at first, but believe me if you stick with it and it will pay off.

 

[Cubenovice]

I use only 2 algorithms for input(Ri,F,R,Fi) and
(R,Ui,Ri) Any tips for my problem

There are some of your problems: you may be missing half the opportunities to insert pairs
R U R' pairs up and inserts at the same time

And offcourse you can also use the left hand versions of all these possible insertions>

Advanced algs for F2L? way too early for you
Make sure to first understand intuitive F2L

Have a look at badmephisto's youtube channel for a basic understanding of intuitive F2L

 

[iliastsa]

There are some of your problems: you may be missing half the opportunities to insert pairs
R U R' pairs up and inserts at the same time

And offcourse you can also use the left hand versions of all these possible insertions>

Advanced algs for F2L? way too early for you
Make sure to first understand intuitive F2L

Have a look at badmephisto's youtube channel for a basic understanding of intuitive F2L

I use the left vairations of the algs offcourse!

 

[Cubenovice]

off course, that's why you mention only using two algorithms

 

[iliastsa]

off course, that's why you mention only using two algorithms

my mistake

You should average less than 8 moves per pair. Keep experimenting, by setting up the two basic cases, pairing, and inserting an already made pair. Just experiment. Any cases you have >11 moves, PM me I'll show you and explain how I solve it.
Remember. If you have a difficult case, go for a different pair but influencing the difficult one.

You've probably heard this a lot but turn slow and lookahead. As in, turn as fast as you can so that you don't pause. That may be 0.5tps, 3tps, 10tps... But don't pause at all. Don't look at what you're doing, instead watch the next pair and plan how it's gonna be solved.

If you go at just 1tps without hesitations your F2L will be sub-23 already.

5bld ur full of pm it says

 

[Cheese11]

1. You should learn proper notation, it will help you out when you start to learn algs
2. Just keep practicing, once you do the cases enough you'll know what to do and it will be like doing an alg

What kind of cube are you using?

 

[iliastsa]

1. You should learn proper notation, it will help you out when you start to learn algs
2. Just keep practicing, once you do the cases enough you'll know what to do and it will be like doing an alg

What kind of cube are you using?

Im using a Dayan GuHong

 

[asportking]

Im using a Dayan GuHong

Ok, that's good. Have you lubed it? If you have, I think you're all set hardware-wise.

 

[iliastsa]

Ok, that's good. Have you lubed it? If you have, I think you're all set hardware-wise.

yeah with silikon spray

 

[~Adam~]

Practice, try and find new ways to create and insert pairs, practice, slow down and look ahead, practice, when you are comfortable with your F2L cases try watching video's like this one and did I mention practice?

45 sec is fairly fast for 2 months. You just need time.

 

[Dene]

The only advice you need is to practise. Disregard all other advice given.

 

[foxfan352]

Practice, but don't just blindly solve the cube in an effort to get faster. Try to learn how the pieces move around the cube. If your using intuitive f2l you might be pairing up and inserting pieces in an inefficient manor. Practice by trying to solve each f2l case in as few moves as possible(no more than 11 moves). One thing you can do is see how some f2l algorithms solve some cases and apply that to your intuitive solves. Watch some of westonian f2l videos or badmephisto.