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newbiecubie
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An explanation of inititive F2L would be nice! I need an answer that states the differance between algorithm F2L and inititive F2L. (would someone mind telling haow to spell inititive...)
This Needs To Become A Sticy Once It Is Answered What Is Initive F2l???
badmephisto
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it's not exactly hard to figure out: algorithm F2L means you learn all the cases that you can run into (like 50 or something) in F2L, and you just learn all algorithms and perform them.
Intuitive F2L is for people that have a working brain, and realize that learning all the algorithms is useless. These smart people go on and learn how to do F2L intuitively so that they don't have to learn any algorithms at all.
and, oh my god, it's spelled STICKY.
Intuitive F2L is for people that have a working brain, and realize that learning all the algorithms is useless. These smart people go on and learn how to do F2L intuitively so that they don't have to learn any algorithms at all.
and, oh my god, it's spelled STICKY.
Intuitive** just means it involves logical thinking. Intuitive f2l usually means starting with a cross and figuring out how to pair up a first layer corner with a middle layer edge and placing that chunk in its slot together. After a while(a long while) you wont have to use much intuition and each corner/edge pairing will be done and slotted almost automatically as a combination of intuition, recognition, and muscle memory.
Dene
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I think of intuitive as meaning, you figure it out for yourself, using the basic knowledge you already have.
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newbiecubie
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Omg I Can't Believe I Spelt Sticky Wrong!!!
Dcuber
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I'm one of those f2l intuitive ppl 
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masterofthebass
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I'm not going to sticky this... i can't believe i'm even posting in it.
Harris Chan
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I guess a mixed of it is good: You group them into a certain category (the way Dan Harris did in his site), and then you look at one algo case, and see how that work (AUF to aim at slot+pair up+insert). And then the rest of the cases in the same group should be intuitive to figure out.
AvGalen
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Joël van Noort uses algs based F2L, Erik uses intuitive F2L, so both ways can get you great times!
badmephisto
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I'm sure even Erik knows some algorithms for F2L, as some non-intuitive algorithms solve certain F2L pairs more easily than an intuitive solution. Similarly, I'm confident that Joel actually understands what goes on with most of his F2L algorithms. Regardless, I hope we can all agree that it is much better to learn F2L intuitively and then look up (possibly non-intuitive) algorithms for the few special cases.
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First of all, you stole my name! And, yes, if you look in my public profile, I joined earlier that you! Ha!
Now, on a more relevant note, INTUITIVE F2L means solving the FIRST TWO LAYERS using intuition, which is basically logic.
ALGORITHM F2L means solving the FIRST TWO LAYERS using algorithms that you commit to memory.
As many time have shown, both intuitive and algorithm F2Ls work, and one can achieve great times with both.
@badmephisto: That's what I do. I do an intuitive F2L for most cases and use algs for those I have trouble with.
NOTE: The word 'intuitive' should be spelled correctly throughout this post.
Now, on a more relevant note, INTUITIVE F2L means solving the FIRST TWO LAYERS using intuition, which is basically logic.
ALGORITHM F2L means solving the FIRST TWO LAYERS using algorithms that you commit to memory.
As many time have shown, both intuitive and algorithm F2Ls work, and one can achieve great times with both.
@badmephisto: That's what I do. I do an intuitive F2L for most cases and use algs for those I have trouble with.
NOTE: The word 'intuitive' should be spelled correctly throughout this post.
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newbiecubie
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lol I didn't even see you though and thank you SOOOOOOO much for a normal answer.
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