The Speedcubing Hobby

[Hunter]

Going through half of the positions of a 3x3 at one turn per second would take about 2 quadrillion hours. So randomly moving it so a solved state is pretty low, however this does happen:
(3:00 in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q92jJIhlHA

 

[tx789]

Going through half of the positions of a 3x3 at one turn per second would take about 2 quadrillion hours. So randomly moving it so a solved state is pretty low, however this does happen:
(3:00 in)

If you scramble a cube with wr(white on top green on front) and another br(blue on top red on front) then they both have the same solutions.


Still it a lot

Do you think every single combination has existed on a real 3x3.

There are 18,000 people on this forum and a lot would of solved a cube thousands of times that millions of solves

 

[Hunter]

Do you think every single combination has existed on a real 3x3.

That's very interesting.

 

[hcfong]

Do you think every single combination has existed on a real 3x3.

Not even near. I just did some rough calculations. Please note that the numbers I use may be grossly exaggerated and are really made up. anyway, let's go:

We know that a 3x3 cube has 43 quintillion (43 * 10e18) possible permutations that can be reached from a solved cube,
We also know that the cube has been around since 1974, so 38 years.
According to the Rubik's website, over 300 million Rubik's cubes have been sold. With the sales of knock off cubes and speedcubes, I raised this number to 500 million.

Now let's assume that all these 500 million cubes have been around since the day the Rubik's cube first appeared on the market and since that time each of them has been turned non-stop with a rate of 5 tps. We also assume that each turn, results in a unique permutation of the cube, that has never appeared on any cube before and until all permutions have appeared.

With these assumptions in mind, let's do some basic maths.

38 years = 1,119,232,000 seconds (including leap days)

With 500 million cubes being turned non stop at 5 tps, this would give us 2.9 * 10e18. We haven't even reached 10% of the total number of permutations.

Of course, I am aware the numbers I use are grossly overestimated and the assumptions I make are totally impossible. But it shows that we haven't even begun to scratch the surface when it comes to the total number of possible permutations.

 

[sneaklyfox]

If it was a non-cuber saying that they'd solved it by accident I would simply reject it as too unlikely to happen. With SneakyFox it's unbelievable but stuff does happen. I would chalk it up to the unconscious mind solving the cube.

I must have a genius subconscious!

 

[nqwe]

Not even near. I just did some rough calculations. Please note that the numbers I use may be grossly exaggerated and are really made up. anyway, let's go:

We know that a 3x3 cube has 43 quintillion (43 * 10e18) possible permutations that can be reached from a solved cube,
We also know that the cube has been around since 1974, so 38 years.
According to the Rubik's website, over 300 million Rubik's cubes have been sold. With the sales of knock off cubes and speedcubes, I raised this number to 500 million.

Now let's assume that all these 500 million cubes have been around since the day the Rubik's cube first appeared on the market and since that time each of them has been turned non-stop with a rate of 5 tps. We also assume that each turn, results in a unique permutation of the cube, that has never appeared on any cube before and until all permutions have appeared.

With these assumptions in mind, let's do some basic maths.

38 years = 1,119,232,000 seconds (including leap days)

With 500 million cubes being turned non stop at 5 tps, this would give us 2.9 * 10e18. We haven't even reached 10% of the total number of permutations.

Of course, I am aware the numbers I use are grossly overestimated and the assumptions I make are totally impossible. But it shows that we haven't even begun to scratch the surface when it comes to the total number of possible permutations.

And considering, that people are dumb enough not to regognize that they are a few moves away from solution ^^
Although a nice thought experiment.

btw, (a)e(b) means already a*10^b

 

[ducttapecuber]

Not even near. I just did some rough calculations. Please note that the numbers I use may be grossly exaggerated and are really made up. anyway, let's go:

We know that a 3x3 cube has 43 quintillion (43 * 10e18) possible permutations that can be reached from a solved cube,
We also know that the cube has been around since 1974, so 38 years.
According to the Rubik's website, over 300 million Rubik's cubes have been sold. With the sales of knock off cubes and speedcubes, I raised this number to 500 million.

Now let's assume that all these 500 million cubes have been around since the day the Rubik's cube first appeared on the market and since that time each of them has been turned non-stop with a rate of 5 tps. We also assume that each turn, results in a unique permutation of the cube, that has never appeared on any cube before and until all permutions have appeared.

With these assumptions in mind, let's do some basic maths.

38 years = 1,119,232,000 seconds (including leap days)

With 500 million cubes being turned non stop at 5 tps, this would give us 2.9 * 10e18. We haven't even reached 10% of the total number of permutations.

Of course, I am aware the numbers I use are grossly overestimated and the assumptions I make are totally impossible. But it shows that we haven't even begun to scratch the surface when it comes to the total number of possible permutations.

it's interesting to think about (even though your calculations are 100% correct) what if is their is that one scrambled state that has an easy cross, extremley easy f2l and a LL skip that only takes Faz a little over 3 or 4 seconds....

 

[BigGreen]

Speedcubin?

 

[applemobile]

OP sounds like he is on MDMA

 

[ducttapecuber]

Speedcubin?

Really you brought up that thread again.... i still laugh at it though

 

[Edward]

Speedcubin?

u green

Anything can sound pretty phenomenal when you break it down like that.
The world is a pretty cool place. Humans are a pretty cool guy.

 

[tx789]

quintillion seems smaller than it is it's a million million million or million trillion and that's only 1/43 of the total number

 

[WBCube]

It's getting awfully cube theory in here, I like it though

 

[Ickathu]

Puzzle/Number/Group/Cube theory

 

[NEONCUBES]

fixed

Well, no. I don't stop during my solves to ponder such things.


What a great hobby we have, though!

I only stop when I can't find my next f2l pair. I agree we do have a great hobby!

 

[applemobile]

Thing that irritates me is the sheer amount of women that it attracts. Some days I fear leaving the house for fear of getting mobbed by 10/10 nubile femails.

 

[NEONCUBES]

Thing that irritates me is the sheer amount of women that it attracts. Some days I fear leaving the house for fear of getting mobbed by 10/10 nubile femails.

If only.

 

[5BLD]

Thing that irritates me is the sheer amount of women that it attracts. Some days I fear leaving the house for fear of getting mobbed by 10/10 nubile femails.

Don't be too kind to yerself, I'm not sure if someone who can't spell female would have that particular problem

 

[Tyjet66]

Thing that irritates me is the sheer amount of women that it attracts. Some days I fear leaving the house for fear of getting mobbed by 10/10 nubile femails.

Yea, my soon to be fiance only took interest in me after seeing me solve during class.

 

[Chrisandstuff]

Well I did once accidentally solve a cube once but it wasnt fully scrambled either I had one and I did the checkerboard pattern to it and messed up the pattern then kinda tried to undo what I did but eventually It got back to solved although it wasnt fully scrambled IMO