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The Roux "Example Solve" Game!

B2 L2 D2 F' D2 U2 R2 F' L2 U2 F D F' D' F' U2 R D' L U F'

y x'
B F u R' U2 r2 F' //7
F R F' U' R2 U r' U' R U R U2 R' U R //15
U' R U R' U R U r' F R' F' r //12
M' U' M U' M2 U' M' U2 M U M U2 M U2 M2 //15
49 stm
 
L U' F R2 D' R F2 U B2 D' F R2 U2 F' R2 F2 D2 R2 D2 L2 F'

z
F2 R E2 R' U' R' U //7
x' R' U' M2 U r U' R2 U R' U' R U2 R' U' R //15
U F U R U' R' U F' U' R' F' r //12
U M' U' M U M2 U M' U2 M U M //12
46 stm

I'll just take that scramble.

z2 y
R2 U' r U' B R U' M F' // 9 meh
r2 U M U' M' r U R r U' R F R F' U2 M2 U' R' // 18 :(((
U2 x U R' U' L U2 R U2 r' // 9
U' M' U M' U M' U2 M U' M2 U2 M U2 M' // 14

BOO meh FIRST AND WORST SECOND BLOCK BUT BEST I COULD FIND ;-;
50 stm :((((

http://alg.cubing.net/?title=T-Perm...9 U-_M-_U_M-_U_M-_U2_M_U-_M2_U2_M_U2_M-_//_14
 
ya that's a tough second block, you could also do this:
R2 U' R U' R U r' U' r2 U2 R' U R //13

i doubt i would have seen that in a speedsolve though.
 
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B2 L2 D2 F' D2 U2 R2 F' L2 U2 F D F' D' F' U2 R D' L U F'

y x'
B F u R' U2 r2 F' //7
F R F' U' R2 U r' U' R U R U2 R' U R //15
U' R U R' U R U r' F R' F' r //12
M' U' M U' M2 U' M' U2 M U M U2 M U2 M2 //15
49 stm

same scramble: B2 L2 D2 F' D2 U2 R2 F' L2 U2 F D F' D' F' U2 R D' L U F'

y
L (D2 U) (r M') B R2 U F' [9]
U' R' U r U R U R U R U M U' M2 U R' [16] Look at all those R U!
U' R U' L' U R' U' L [8]
M2 U' M' U' M U' M U2 M U' M' U2 M' [13]

STM: 46
 
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bored again so here's another one:

F D' F B2 R' B' R2 B2 R' F2 R2 U' B2 U' F2 U L2 D B2 U'

x y'
F' D' F' M' r B' M2 F //8
U' R' U r' U' r' U' r U2 r U2 r' U' r //14
U' R' U R2 D r' U2 r D' R2 U' R //12
U M' U2 M U' M' U M' U2 M' U M' //12
46 stm

Look at all those R U!

i wish all second blocks were like that. :p
 
F D' F B2 R' B' R2 B2 R' F2 R2 U' B2 U' F2 U L2 D B2 U'

y
R U M F' R U' M2 B // 8
U' R' U2 R' M' U R' B' R' B R U r' U' r // 15
U' R' (F R U' R' U' R U R' F' (R U R' U') R' F R F') R // 20
M U' M' U M2 U M' U2 M' U M' U2 M' U2 // 14


bleh cmll and second block 57 :((((((
 
F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'

z' x'
R' D U B2 M F U F' U //9
x M2 U' r' U' R2 U R U2 R' U' R U r' //13
U' F R U R' U' F' //7
M U' M' U' M' U M2 U' M' //9
38 stm

cmll and lse were lucky
 
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F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'
x' // Inspection
R' U2 R2 r' d' [L' r'] F // F2B-1 (7/7)
U2 R' U R' U2 B // F2B-2 (6/13)
U2 R2 r U r' U R2 // F2B-3 (7/20)
U R U2 R' U r // F2B-4 (6/26)
L U2 L' U' L U' L' U2 R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' // 2lCMLL (21/47)
M2 U M' U M' // EO (5/52)
U2 M2 U // ULUR (3/55)
M U2 M' U2 M2 U2 // EP (6/61)

yay efficiency
 
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F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'

y U R2 B' // square [3/3]
R' F R U' F2 // FB [5/11]
M' U2 M2 U' M' R2 U M' U R2 U' R' U R U' // i-square [15/26]
R U2 R' U' R U R' // F2B [7/33]
R U R' U' R' F R F' // CMLL [8/41]
U M' U' M' U2 M' U' M2 U2 // LSE [9/50]

meh. i guess im not that bad at roux maybe ;3
 
Scramble of the session:
F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'

B' D' U2 R' F' L' D U' (U F' D F U' F' D') F R L2 U L // first block with insertion (18)
R2 U R (F U F' U F U2 F') R2 // second block with sune CMLL (11)
// L6E skip (0)
=29 htm
 
F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'
y z // inspection
B r' U F' E' R' U' F2 // first block (8)
U' R' U R2 U r U R' U' R2 U R U2 r' U' r // second block (16)
R' U' R' F R F' R U' R' U2 R // CMLL (11)
U2 M U M U M' U M' U' M U2 M' U M2 U2 M U2 M // LSE (18)

53 STM

Edit: critiques for the LSE?
 
Edit: critiques for the LSE?

Don't have a cube with me, but a lot of the time you can cancel the first few moves of your LSE with the last few moves of the CMLL by using wide turns.

And for Fewest Moves solves, where you get multiple tries and time to think, you can always positively affect the LSE during earlier steps.
 
Don't have a cube with me, but a lot of the time you can cancel the first few moves of your LSE with the last few moves of the CMLL by using wide turns.

And for Fewest Moves solves, where you get multiple tries and time to think, you can always positively affect the LSE during earlier steps.

examples on alg.cubing.net?
 
examples on alg.cubing.net?

F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'
y z // inspection
B r' U F' E' R' U' F2 // first block (8)
U' R' U R2 U r U R' U' R2 U R U2 r' U' r // second block (16)
R' U' R' F R F' R U' R' U2 R // CMLL (11)
U2 M U M U M' U M' U' M U2 M' U M2 U2 M U2 M // LSE (18)

53 STM

Edit: critiques for the LSE?

I'm not good at Roux, but one thing that you should try to notice is easy LSE EO cases that come up before LSE. In this solve, for example, after your second block, you are left with a 3-move EO (which is much better than the awkward EO case that you actually ended up getting).

So you have two better alternatives:
1) do EO right now, before you do an EO-safe CMLL alg (like COLL for example)
2) do a COLL alg right now, followed by a 3-move EO later on

Pick whichever of the two options would allow you to cancel a move with either
1) the end of the second block
2) the COLL
or 3) the EP step

so for example:
F2 R U2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 R2 U' L' D F' R' D U' B' U'
y z // YOUR inspection
B r' U F' E' R' U' F2 // YOUR first block (8)
U' R' U R2 U r U R' U' R2 U R U2 r' U' r // YOUR second block (16)
U L B' U' L2 U' B U B' L2 U B l' U M'// MY COLL and EO (15)
U D L2 D' M2 D L2 D' // MY edges (8)

so, that's an easy way to shave off 6 stm, or 13 htm

But Roux is NOT an inherently efficient method. Stock Roux method is highly restrictive, the order of steps doesn't lend itself to half-decent cancellations, and the moveset is gross, to put it gently.
 
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