The cubing argument thread

[cuberbutnotacuber]

Seems correct! Welp, gotta run, nu-7 is after me again!

 

[Scollier]

New Argument:

The YJ Mini 4x4 and especially 5x5 are one the best cubes on the market for 4x4 and 5x5, and are of a great price as well.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

New Argument:

The YJ Mini 4x4 and especially 5x5 are one the best cubes on the market for 4x4 and 5x5, and are of a great price as well.

some of the best, yeah, but the MGCs as well as the Aosu wrm 4x4 and valk 5 outdo them (And debatably the Aochuang wrm 5x5)

 

[Scollier]

some of the best, yeah, but the MGCs as well as the Aosu wrm 4x4 and valk 5 outdo them (And debatably the Aochuang wrm 5x5)

Well, the YJ mini 4x4 is $12, and the Aosu WRM is $43. You can't beat it for that price. It's simaler to GAN cubes and the Guhong v4. Their both great cubes, but for the price, the Guhong v4 (and in this case the YJ Mini) is much better.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

$43 dollars.

43 dollars dollars?

 

[Scollier]

43 dollars dollars?

I fixed it. And also you're just getting off topic from the argument, a classic move to get out of a debate.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

I fixed it. And also you're just getting off topic from the argument, a classic move to get out of a debate.

not entirely true, I think that price is irrelevant for the best cube. Maybe the zhisu has more bang for your buck, but I think the aosu WRM is actually better

 

[Scollier]

not entirely true, I think that price is irrelevant for the best cube. Maybe the zhisu has more bang for your buck, but I think the aosu WRM is actually better

But is it 4x better? (According to the price).

 

[DNF_Cuber]

But is it 4x better? (According to the price).

I am not saying it is. I am just saying that if we are talking about the BEST Cube then price is not a factor

 

[Scollier]

I am not saying it is. I am just saying that if we are talking about the BEST Cube then price is not a factor

I agree. But most people use price as a factor against GAN cubes, saying that 11 M Pro is way to expensive, even though its a great cube. So I'm just using that previous argument and logic.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

I agree. But most people use price as a factor against GAN cubes, saying that 11 M Pro is way to expensive, even though its a great cube. So I'm just using that previous argument and logic.

First of all, the YJ mini 4x4 and 5x5 are WAY too small for most people. If you have very small hands, then sure, they might suit you fine. But for 90% of people the size is to small to use.

Second of all, the Gan 11 M wouldn't all that great even if it was cheap. The performance is arguably equal if not worse compared to other cubes (for example RS3M 2020, WRM 2019/2020, Valk Elite, Tengyun v1, Guhong V4, and more) and the feel isn't all that great either. True, it does have core magnets and customization, but those don't really affect your solve times or your enjoyment solving on the cube.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

I agree. But most people use price as a factor against GAN cubes, saying that 11 M Pro is way to expensive, even though its a great cube. So I'm just using that previous argument and logic.

So..... You're using what you find to be a bad argument for your own case

 

[Scollier]

I disagree. The GAN 11 M Pro seems like a great cube, and @Owen Morrison mains it. As for size of the YJ Minis, its perfectly reasonable for any average cuber, unless you have massive hands. Even J Perm said that the 5x5 feels actually just right for his hands.

 

[the dnf master]

I disagree. The GAN 11 M Pro seems like a great cube, and @Owen Morrison mains it. As for size of the YJ Minis, its perfectly reasonable for any average cuber, unless you have massive hands. Even J Perm said that the 5x5 feels actually just right for his hands.

The YJ mini cubes are meant more for just having fun with them, not to be taken that seriously, which means that you can't compare them with the flagship cubes.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

I disagree. The GAN 11 M Pro seems like a great cube, and @Owen Morrison mains it.

Owen struggled to choose between the Gan 11 and the Guhong v4. And he has never even tried other cubes like Valk Elite and Tengyun v1. While the Gan 11 might be a decent cube there are definitely cubes better than it for much cheaper.

As for size of the YJ Minis, its perfectly reasonable for any average cuber, unless you have massive hands. Even J Perm said that the 5x5 feels actually just right for his hands.

J Perm said he has abnormally small hands. And yet he preferred the size of the Aosu wrm.

 

[Scollier]

The YJ mini cubes are meant more for just having fun with them, not to be taken that seriously, which means that you can't compare them with the flagship cubes.

Sure, I accept that. I guess I wouldn't take them I a competition, as there are better (and more expensive) cubes for that.

 

[Scollier]

While the Gan 11 might be a decent cube there are definitely cubes better than it for much cheaper.

That's exactly what I said. The GAN 11 M Pro is a decent cube, but there are other cubes that are better for less the price. I never said that 11 M Pro was the best cube ever. And, since you are bringing in the price factor just like I did before, I will say just what DNF Cuber said:

So..... You're using what you find to be a bad argument for your own case

 

[Deleted member 55877]

That's exactly what I said. The GAN 11 M Pro is a decent cube, but there are other cubes that are better for less the price. I never said that 11 M Pro was the best cube ever. And, since you are bringing in the price factor just like I did before, I will say just what DNF Cuber said:

You're avoiding the subject: YJ mini cubes

 

[Scollier]

You're avoiding the subject: YJ mini cubes

No I'm not. Following back to the argument, DNF_Cuber said that there were better 4x4's than the YJ Mini. He mentioned the Aosu wrm 4x4, and I replied saying that it probably is a good cube, better than the YJ, but the price is 4 times higher, bringing up and tieing in the argument of the high prices of GAN cubes. Therefore, I'm not avoiding the subject, I'm just going off on a related point.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

No I'm not. Following back to the argument, DNF_Cuber said that there were better 4x4's than the YJ Mini. He mentioned the Aosu wrm 4x4, and I replied saying that it probably is a good cube, better than the YJ, but the price is 4 times higher, bringing up and tieing in the argument of the high prices of GAN cubes. Therefore, I'm not avoiding the subject, I'm just going off on a related point.

when did you say it is better than the YJ?