T-Perm

[Lucas Garron]

I just got 1.08, 1.11, 1.09, and got worse from there...

I just got 0.98 on my stackmat. Matyas 0.98 and 0.99 in comp.

For the T-perm U2, I got 8: RFLFRFLR (first moves).

 

[Leviticus]

My best is 1.17 and just then 1.22

 

[Erik]

@ Jason Baum: I have the type which was used just before that. (with data port too etc)
I tried some and the only times I could get around 1 sec were: 0.97, 1.00, 1.02, 1.03, 1.05
You guys still remember the 1st gen timers? Lowest you could possibly get was 0.36

 

[Stefan]

Erik: Weird, I was trying this for a few minutes just now and got a lot of .97s but no .98 or .99s. I also got plenty of 1.00s and 1.02s, but no 1.01s. What kind of stackmat are you using? I'm using the newer Generation 2 models (where you can store times and stuff).

Same here. Same model, same (missing) results.

 

[Stefan]

For the T-perm U2, I got 8: UFLFUFLR (first moves).

Try this instead:
(Tperm y)6.

 

[Pedro]

I just got a 1.01
I have one of the "non-competition" timers, got it on the stackpack

got a .97...let me see if I can get .98 or .99

EDIT: 1.00

EDIT2: 0.98
EDIT3: just at the next try, 0.99

 

[watermelon]

Just got a 0.97, 0.98, 0.99, and 1.00 on my Generation 2 Timer that we ended up using at Washington DC Open.

Edit: Those times are just seeing if I could stop my Stackmat between 0.97 and 1.00. My T-perm is nowhere near as fast as that .

 

[Alex DiTuro]

Talk about wicked fast fingers! I just got a 2.56 on cubetimer. My LL finger tricks are horrible...

 

[Lucas Garron]

For the T-perm U2, I got 8: UFLFUFLR (first moves).

Try this instead:
(Tperm y)6.

Michael also got a 6 (RFRFLF) right after I found those 8, so I decided to leave 8 in my post and let qqwref post his 6.
(i.e. I would probably have found a 6 myself, but refrained from it.)

(Also, I fixed my original post to RFLFRFLR -which, by the way, should easily give FLFRFR.)

 

[DavidWoner]

T is tied with J for my second best perm(after the two U's). my best T is 1.63 using a computer timer, so possibly sub 1.5 on a stackmat? it is my favorite, and its the alg i use for single edge swaps on 2x2x2.

 

[McWizzle94]

my T perm is somewhere around 1.51 (i think)

sub-1 would be really fast!

 

[Rosson91]

I got 1.22
not bad...

 

[Haukzi]

You guys are right it is impossible to solve the cube using only the T-perm. But Bob scrambled Jason's cube only by executing loads of random T-perms on it.
One of the most fun nights of cubing I've ever had.
For me its 1.34 best and sub-1.5 average

No, it's possible to solve all legal cube states with a t-perm and intuitive setup moves.

 

[Bryan]

it is impossible to solve the cube using only the T-perm.

No, it's possible to solve all legal cube states with a t-perm and intuitive setup moves.

 

[Zava]

It's impossible to get 13.37 on my stackmat, I've tried it 98432983 times...

well, on the ones they used at hungarian open, it's not
[youtube]W-X46oCXO-8&[/youtube]

 

[Zava]

anyway wtf?!
I thought everyone is this fast at T perm. my best is (if I remember well) 0.83, I'll try to get a good one (maybe I'll catch a .86, I don't think I can reproduce the .83 )

 

[Kickflip1993]

first try: 13.37^^

 

[Haukzi]

it is impossible to solve the cube using only the T-perm.

No, it's possible to solve all legal cube states with a t-perm and intuitive setup moves.

Well, I assumed T-Perm with setup moves was allowed.

Otherwise its pretty obvious that if no setup moves are allowed you can only cycle the same corners and edges back and forth. Hence the only solvable state would be a t-perm.

 

[Zava]

it is impossible to solve the cube using only the T-perm.

No, it's possible to solve all legal cube states with a t-perm and intuitive setup moves.

Well, I assumed T-Perm with setup moves was allowed.

Otherwise its pretty obvious that if no setup moves are allowed you can only cycle the same corners and edges back and forth. Hence the only solvable state would be a t-perm.

cube rotations also allowed, or am I wrong?

 

[cpt.Justice]

it is impossible to solve the cube using only the T-perm.

No, it's possible to solve all legal cube states with a t-perm and intuitive setup moves.

Well, I assumed T-Perm with setup moves was allowed.

Otherwise its pretty obvious that if no setup moves are allowed you can only cycle the same corners and edges back and forth. Hence the only solvable state would be a t-perm.

cube rotations also allowed, or am I wrong?

Your right, Haukzi needs to ltfm...