T-Perm Addiction

[Mike Hughey]

Actually, I'm not that fast at T-perms. In fact, I'm outrageously slow at them on a 2x2x2 (usually greater than 5 seconds). I'm not quite that bad at 3x3x3; it's one of my faster PLLs, but certainly not the fastest, and I'm still amazingly slow compared to a REAL speedcuber. Nonetheless, I know that I often use them when testing out a cube. I distinctly remember that when Rowe handed me a hybrid he had just put together, I definitely did a couple of T-perms. However, that being said, I must admit I did them rather slowly and carefully (I've seen how easily his cubes pop!).

I think one of the reasons I do T-perms is because I use them for parity on most BLD solves (and for corner parity on ALL big cube BLD solves). So it's a comfortable thing to try that has some meaning to me. Or maybe I just do it because a T-perm is fun (even if I'm slow at it).

 

[nitrocan]

It's so much different for me, I can go 5-10 minutes just T-Perming while talking to someone. I can stop when it pops

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

lol, funny topic,
I test cubes with T-perms and V-perms to get a feel for them, also I do them when i pick up cubes before averages and stuff

 

[Dene]

I guess I am alone then, I DON'T do T-perms to test a cube. In fact I don't just blindly do any type of perms, what I usually do is do a 2gen scramble and solve, which tests out tension, friction, corner cutting, and so on, all at once. It's also a good test of how good a cube is for F2L, which is much more important to me than being able to do specific permutations fast. For bigcubes the first thing I go for is <Rw,U> fingertricks.

I think the T-perm thing ties into one thing I think is really annoying: when I give someone a cube to try and say it's "delicate", and then they pop it within three seconds. I always tell them that it is their responsibility to find the pieces, clean them off, and put it back together. Stop doing T perms, guys. I'm completely serious. If you do your fastest algorithm, all you're going to identify is cubes that fit what you're expecting when you do that algorithm, rather than cubes you can do good F2L (or whatever) on. And if the cube is a bit loose or you have to be careful with it, all you're going to end up doing is locking up and having a pop, and (in case you couldn't tell) the person who owns the cube usually does NOT appreciate that. Believe it or not, some cubes are good for things other than corner cutting at 10+ TPM.

And what if you do not want to test out how nice the cube is for F2L, but you want to test how good it is for the LL?
What an ignorant perspective.

 

[fanwuq]

This is what I do in order of importance and frequency:

1. Uccw
2. MU Z
3. RU Z, Ucw
4. T
5. Y, both J, both R, H
6. both A, F, V, G
7. both N
I never practice E

I do these on my main cube when I'm bored.
I test out new cubes with averages of 5 or more.

 

[IamWEB]

T, J, U, Y, and surprisingly, V.

I love them all, and they all love me.

T's my wife, but I cheat on her with J too. She doesn't mind though, we're the official ones, not J and I.

 

[Scigatt]

I used to do T a lot, but now I do R(a) and my own LUF Z perm[(L' U' L2) F (L' U' L' U' L) U2 (L F' L' U') (L' U2 L)]

 

[rahulkadukar]

T-Perm??!! Whatever, I'm guessing there really useful. Can someone tell me a link?

A T-perm swaps two corners and two edges. These four pieces form a T

I do it in two ways:

U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D R2 D' B2

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

 

[Ellis]

T-Perm??!! Whatever, I'm guessing there really useful. Can someone tell me a link?

A T-perm swaps two corners and two edges. These four pieces form a T

I do it in two ways:

U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D R2 D' B2

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

The first one isn't a t-perm. Why would need need a second t-perm anyway?

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

T-Perm??!! Whatever, I'm guessing there really useful. Can someone tell me a link?

A T-perm swaps two corners and two edges. These four pieces form a T

I do it in two ways:

U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D R2 D' B2

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

The first one isn't a t-perm. Why would need need a second t-perm anyway?

FMC, optimal algs.

 

[Ellis]

Ok, that makes sense. I don't do fewest moves. But that still isn't a T-perm

 

[blah]

T-Perm??!! Whatever, I'm guessing there really useful. Can someone tell me a link?

A T-perm swaps two corners and two edges. These four pieces form a T

I do it in two ways:

U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D R2 D' B2

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

The first one isn't a t-perm. Why would need need a second t-perm anyway?

What the hell is wrong with me?! Someone tells me it isn't a T perm, but my subconscious just refuses to believe it, and my fingers get itchy and I just have to try out that alg to see if it's really not a T perm, and I end up having a super stiff scrambled cube, and then I have to go through the agony of solving that stupid stiff cube.

Anyone else has the same problem with itchy fingers?

 

[Ellis]

What the hell is wrong with me?! Someone tells me it isn't a T perm, but my subconscious just refuses to believe it, and my fingers get itchy and I just have to try out that alg to see if it's really not a T perm, and I end up having a super stiff scrambled cube, and then I have to go through the agony of solving that stupid stiff cube.

Anyone else has the same problem with itchy fingers?

I do, that's why I had to try that algorithm

You got a fair warning though that it wasn't a t-perm, but I guess that's what made them itchy.

 

[rahulkadukar]

T-Perm??!! Whatever, I'm guessing there really useful. Can someone tell me a link?

A T-perm swaps two corners and two edges. These four pieces form a T

I do it in two ways:

U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D R2 D' B2

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

The first one isn't a t-perm. Why would need need a second t-perm anyway?

The first one is U' L2 D F2 D' L2 B2 D' R2 D B2

Sorry for the mistake

 

[04mucklowd]

Love the t-perm
but H is my favourite

 

[ChromisElda]

Yeah my J's are faster than my T, but I love them both, usually perform them nonstop when I don't feel like unsolving my cube but still doing something.

 

[Paul Wagner]

t's are amazing

 

[endless_akatsuki]

t-perms all day...

 

[AvGalen]

To change the poll, all I had to do was click the "Edit poll" on the top-right of the poll

Actually, I'm not that fast at T-perms. In fact, I'm outrageously slow at them on a 2x2x2 (usually greater than 5 seconds).

Why do T-Perm on 2x2x2? Just do J or A

And I don't do T-Perm. I do sexy moves ....... again and again and again ....... until it's done

And if I liked it I will test the rest of the cube by doing a full scramble/solve

 

[Hadley4000]

Ugh. I hate T perm!