Struggling with f2l

[GooseCuber]

I have been cubing for about 2-3 months now but can't break the 30 second average mark and that is because f2l takes 20+ seconds of my time, I still use intuitive f2l and realy don't feel like learning J-perms 77 algs.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[CubeRed]

I have been cubing for about 2-3 months now but can't break the 30 second average mark and that is because f2l takes 20+ seconds of my time, I still use intuitive f2l and realy don't feel like learning J-perms 77 algs.
Any help would be appreciated.

Asses a common case you struggle on and try experiments on it. That helped me out. And also don't learn algs until sub 30. In my opinion it's not needed until that point and experimenting can really get you far.

 

[LBr]

I have been cubing for about 2-3 months now but can't break the 30 second average mark and that is because f2l takes 20+ seconds of my time, I still use intuitive f2l and realy don't feel like learning J-perms 77 algs.
Any help would be appreciated

the 77 algs include mirrors for most of them, which cuts the cases to 40. For those 40 cases, bear in mind that 3-4 moves of each of them are inserting a split pair or paired pair, and the rest of the algorithm is setting up to that case, so its 40 short cases that can very easily be learned

 

[LBr]

here is a breakdown, also, this case can be mirrored
essentially, this case is 4 moves, as long as you can recognise the split pair case.

 

[GooseCuber]

okay thanks.

 

[Melvintnh327]

Asses a common case you struggle on and try experiments on it. That helped me out. And also don't learn algs until sub 30. In my opinion it's not needed until that point and experimenting can really get you far.

wait... I already started learning PLL's when I was sub-1 minute... And I actually used intuitive F2L when I was sub-50 (for reference I'm sub-35 now)

 

[CubeRed]

wait... I already started learning PLL's when I was sub-1 minute... And I actually used intuitive F2L when I was sub-50 (for reference I'm sub-35 now)

Well it worked in the end. There's no right or wrong but my point is intuitive F2L can get you far.

 

[GooseCuber]

Do any of you have any suggested algs?

 

[qwr]

see which ones you can figure out intuitively. most algs follow the same idea and only a few require special algs because intuitive method is just bad