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SQ1 - Where to improve next?
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MTGjumper
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A few of things:
- Improve turning style. I recommend getting used to slice/anti-slice turning (that is, alternating direction of slice turn). However, you could always try Polish style.
- Solve white on top, don't switch half way through.
- Improve EP. I wholly recommend using adj-adj and a couple of parity algs. EP can easily be sub-10 this way.
- Improve turning style. I recommend getting used to slice/anti-slice turning (that is, alternating direction of slice turn). However, you could always try Polish style.
- Solve white on top, don't switch half way through.
- Improve EP. I wholly recommend using adj-adj and a couple of parity algs. EP can easily be sub-10 this way.
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vcuber13
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I think you saw it but you should read though my thread for some tips, it got me from about 50 secd down it about 35 in like 3 weeks, I thought the info was very helpful
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19522
Also, do you know all CP and 5/7 EO [minus adj-opp and opp-adj], and what do you use for parity?
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19522
Also, do you know all CP and 5/7 EO [minus adj-opp and opp-adj], and what do you use for parity?
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MTGjumper
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Why do you keep calling them OBLs? It's just edge separation/orientation.
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Too many pauses, especially right at the beginning. And the recognition is pretty slow
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Listen to that guy.
vcuber13
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I don't know, I'll try to start calling them edge orientation.
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Ya I called it OLL then when I saw that I called it OBL and now I start calling it EO.
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Wait, you were calling it OBL instead of EO? I meant that the "corner orientation" step and the "edge orientation" step put together could be "orienting both layers".
vcuber13
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Wait, you were calling it OBL instead of EO? I meant that the "corner orientation" step and the "edge orientation" step put together could be "orienting both layers".
I know that CO and EO put together is OBL. And at the time I posted I sort of forgot that they were 2 steps, and called it OBL. Since the corners are done so fast and intuitivly I don't consider the corners much of a step so therefore I only count the edges. So to me the only part of OBL is the edges, and I know how it can be confusing and I will make sure I'm clearer in the future.
deepSubDiver
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- Slice / Anti-slice in some cases does not seem smooth to me (e.g. CW U-perm [/3,0/1,0/0,-3/...]).
- What is "Polish style"?
- How does keeping one color on top improve my solves? I do EPLL layer by layer, so where's the point?
I use opposite parity (UL <-> UR) and CW O-perm for my parities. Could you explain the adj-adj idea?
I definitely will have a look into the thread, probably tomorrow (it's 3 am here :s).
I do know all EO (though I sometimes mess up the adj-opp algorithms) and I know all 8 CP.
For the parities, I use opposite and O-perm.
Do you mean the pauses during shape? I sometimes still need to think what I am doing there..
Training recognition is just practice, right?
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vcuber13
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It might seem like its faster to solve the bottom layer then switch and solve the top layer. but if you use adj-adj and opp-opp you can do both at the same time which is a lot faster.
adj-adj = [-2.0] [3.0] [-1.-1] [-2.1] [2.0] (UB <-> UR) (DB <-> BR)
For double u perm what I do is put the solved side on the left adn do opp-opp then adj-adj.
adj-adj = [-2.0] [3.0] [-1.-1] [-2.1] [2.0] (UB <-> UR) (DB <-> BR)
For double u perm what I do is put the solved side on the left adn do opp-opp then adj-adj.
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hmm maybe now is a good time to switch to doing EPs that affect both layers? It's much, much more efficient. The idea is that you can usually use adj-adj (meaning the EP that swaps two adjacent edges on both layers) to reduce it to a simple case. I suggest you learn all the adj-opp combinations as a starter.
Not only that but the recognition overall is kinda slow. Also DO NOT flip over the square-1, it's just a really bad habit.
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You should learn the two "good" double U perms, they're so good. (and that's the EP that I got my 14 on
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vcuber13
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I suggest you learn all the adj-opp combinations as a starter.
You should learn the two "good" double U perms, they're so good. (and that's the EP that I got my 14 on
I should really learn those and u perm-adjs
ArcticxWolf
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You should learn the two "good" double U perms, they're so good. (and that's the EP that I got my 14 on
You really have to reteach me how to recognize those :fp
I still fail with them LOL
deepSubDiver
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I knew that algorithm but didnt know what you mean
I tried a few solves with adj-adj and it seems pretty inefficient or slow to me. I used this to fix double parity when there was just one swap on any side left for EP. I will keep training this method to see whether I can improve with it.
How do you mean combinations? I thought there is only one adj-opp EP?
(1,0) / (0,-1) / (0,-3) / (5,0) / (-5,0) / (0,3) / (0,1) / (5,0)
Those are sexy!Not only that but the recognition overall is kinda slow. Also DO NOT flip over the square-1, it's just a really bad habit.
A lot of people found this helpful
You should learn the two "good" double U perms, they're so good. (and that's the EP that I got my 14 on
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