SQ1 dealing with CO and EO simultaneously

[Jimmy Liu]

Is there any optimize algs that deal with CO and EO simultaneously?

I think that would be efficient for advanced cubers, just like learning optimal cubeshape.

 

[ottozing]

Andrew Nelson had stuff like that lying around at some point. I remember back when I did sq1, I just learned what EO would come after CO for cases that are easy to recognize.

 

[Jimmy Liu]

Maybe the restriction is the recognition, or I might ask if it is necessary to bring up algs that solve CO and EO simultaneously?

 

[Jimmy Liu]

anyone?

 

[blade740]

Some of these algs are wrong, and the table is incomplete, but there are a few gems here:

http://eid0.com/sq1ao.html

 

[Lid]

I actually re-made your page a while ago & fixed all the errors that I could find: http://goo.gl/XDMcJ9 (yellow top)

 

[brandbest1]

Is knowing many of these cases worth learning? I find that taking the time to recognize these might eat up some time while solving.

 

[blade740]

I actually re-made your page a while ago & fixed all the errors that I could find: http://goo.gl/XDMcJ9 (yellow top)

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Is knowing many of these cases worth learning? I find that taking the time to recognize these might eat up some time while solving.

I don't know very many of them. I do use some of the easier to recognize algs in speedsolves when they come up, but mostly I just look ahead and try to force easy EO cases.

 

[blade740]

Sorry for the double post, but I think this warrants a bump. I dug through my files a bit and found something else you might like. The algs in the above link were generated with ksolve, using a custom moveset. I hastily picked one from each set that looked nice, and translated them by hand (hence all the mistakes).

I've still got a couple of saved raw ksolve outputs that I generated a few years back, which covers a few more cases. I've been meaning to take the time to find good algs and collect it into something learnable, but if someone wants to look through it and find stuff for me I certainly wouldn't mind The ksolve def file should also be useful in generating the other alg sets.

Algs: http://pastebin.com/D5gHLfRj
ksolve def file: http://pastebin.com/bT3eiLcv
ksolve scramble file: http://pastebin.com/bT3eiLcv

The moveset consists of U and D moves, plus-

uR - (1,0)/(-1,0)
dR - (0,-1)/(0,1)

This results in algs that never leave cubeshape. Many of them probably aren't optimal, but it's a start.

 

[Jimmy Liu]

lots of things

Thanks for your kind response, that's what I was expecting for.

What about doing CP & EO together, will it be helpful decreasing the time?

 

[blade740]

David Woner was working on that a few years ago. I never really looked too much into it (since it doesn't lead into CP Parity very well), but you can find info in this thread: https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?12254-Advanced-Square-1-Methods-Theory