Romania's Got Talent 2015 Final

[mitch1234]

After the incident with Maxim Chechnev in Ukraine's Got Talent it is pretty shocking that a group of people used similar strategies to win the grand prize of 120,000 euros. Although the average viewer cannot tell the difference between an actual BLD solve and a CFOP'ed BLD solve it is still very frustrating that a group of people that aren't recognized as being top notch BLD solvers are getting massive recognition for their "blindfolded solving abilities".

 

[newtonbase]

Fake mosaic too.

I hadn't heard of Maxim before but someone this morning mentioned these guys and my YouTube search led to him. Everything about him looked fake too beyond a 3BLD ability. 8BLD on stage? Really?

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

Wow this is pathetic and weasly just for 12K Euros, albiet a great prize.

 

[timeless]

wow thats embarassing

 

[SirWaffle]

It's a shame that an act like this wins when a legit act like Rami's didnt even make the next round :/

 

[Deleted member 19792]

It is pretty obvious that most of these Xyzs Got Talent cubing acts are fake. There are very few that aren't (i.e Rami and the kid who did OH and Feet at the same time).

Stupid.

 

[Praetorian]

pathetic degenerates

 

[bubbagrub]

Sorry for being dense, but how do we think they're doing this? It doesn't look like they're looking through / under the blindfolds, so have they memorised CFOP solves for each cube? That seems even harder than doing it the normal BLD way... Or do they do some kind of switcheroo whereby they each get to do the one cube for which they've memorised a CFOP solve? I have a feeling I'm missing something obvious here...

 

[Antonie faz fan]

who cares, the are nubs, the probably watched chris's tutorial.

 

[Mollerz]

This thread disgusts me, your responses are not thought out at all and none of you understand what this helps, you are a backwards hivemind. They are not pathetic, they are not degenerates, it's not embarrassing. This thread is.

Firstly, the prize is 120,000€, quite a significant portion more than has been said before. There is certainly a lot of preparation gone into this, as shown by the quote below. Who cares if it's not the way we conduct solves at competition, this is still an impressive feat, and on top of all this, they have to do it live in front of a big audience, with millions watching, and they full well know that. They did a lot of work to win a national talent show. They did not lie to anyone, they tell everybody exactly what they are doing prior to doing it. They aren't trying to promote speedcubing and WCA competitions, let me repeat, they are trying to win. Next, this is great for speedcubing, a lot of people will see this and get into cubing as a result. When people get into it, if they get into it, they will see how these guys did it and understand. They won't bash our community for falsely advertising our abilities.

From my basic knowledge of romanian, they presented 100 scrambled cubes, which they memorized before the program. They basically started by explaining what was involved in the memorization of a rubik's cube and what it takes to memorize the information for 100 cubes. Then they asked the judges for 4 random cubes of that set. 2 were then solved normally, and one was made to match the final one that was chosen.

The blind number was quite the high risk for live television and it must have taken a lot of preparation work, but it paid off in the end. Hopefully will attract more people to cubing over there, and I am happy the judges and/or the audience decided to award it.

Can't you just be happy for members of our community, sharing our hobby on a national scale, and ultimately winning?

 

[bubbagrub]

Based on what I have seen so far, I agree, Mollerz: I can't see how they did what they did without it involving immense amounts of preparation and significant skills. Not to mention showmanship and balls, which goes a long way.

 

[OrigamiCuber1]

So these guys memorised a bunch of scrambles before hand? I don't see how that is bad. Isn't that Essentially multi blind but picking a random cube.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

I was going to say something along the lines of what Mollerz said, but I was too much of a wimp to speak up.

But yeah, while they may not have BLD solved the way one traditionally would, that wasn't really what they were trying to show off. What they were trying to do was show off their memorisation skills. Think about it, they memorised the solutions to 100 differently scrambled cubes (Unless you wanna argue that the judges were in on it, and picked the only three that they could do, but nah), as well as how to get them to match the other scrambled states. And I'd say it takes a pretty hefty memory to pull that off.

You could argue that it's a bit unfair that they made over 100k in cash from this when most competitive cubers barely make anything from it, but eh, life's unfair, what can you do?

 

[tseitsei]

I was going to say something along the lines of what Mollerz said, but I was too much of a wimp to speak up.

But yeah, while they may not have BLD solved the way one traditionally would, that wasn't really what they were trying to show off. What they were trying to do was show off their memorisation skills. Think about it, they memorised the solutions to 100 differently scrambled cubes (Unless you wanna argue that the judges were in on it, and picked the only three that they could do, but nah), as well as how to get them to match the other scrambled states. And I'd say it takes a pretty hefty memory to pull that off.

You could argue that it's a bit unfair that they made over 100k in cash from this when most competitive cubers barely make anything from it, but eh, life's unfair, what can you do?

It doesn't take any special memorization skills to memorize 100+ cubes if you have UNLIMITED time as they practically had... Whole BLD and MBLD solving is about memorizing cubes as fast as possible...

 

[TheSeppomania]

Perhaps some of the scrambles exists multiple times scrambled on different sites, so there were only 10 different scrambles, or even less.

 

[cashis]

It doesn't take any special memorization skills to memorize 100+ cubes if you have UNLIMITED time as they practically had... Whole BLD and MBLD solving is about memorizing cubes as fast as possible...

no offense but id like to see you do it, then execute in front of a large audience live. their feat is impressive, period.

You could argue that it's a bit unfair that they made over 100k in cash from this when most competitive cubers barely make anything from it, but eh, life's unfair, what can you do?

nobody's stopping maskow from going on one of these shows and doing like a billion cubes with unlimited time. as cubers we have potential to do stuff like this.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

in front of a large audience live.

Not to mention that it'd be on national television. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'd (metaphorically) crap myself if I knew a particularly big portion of my country were watching me cube, wondering how they'd react if I completely messed it up.

 

[ryanj92]

nobody's stopping maskow from going on one of these shows and doing like a billion cubes with unlimited time. as cubers we have potential to do stuff like this.

maskow has done one of these shows already

 

[FJT97]

good point sepp.

and if it was like that, t wasn't something better than this ukrainian guy did.

 

[BboyArchon]

nobody's stopping maskow from going on one of these shows and doing like a billion cubes with unlimited time. as cubers we have potential to do stuff like this.

Indeed, he went to Poland Got Talent and reached the final (iirc)

And I think same as Mollerz, to the last point of his post.