Question about learning ZBLL

[Mewrius]

Right now I use ZZ w/ OCLL and PLL and want to learn ZZ-a. So I was wondering if it's a bad idea to learn COLL and ZBLL at the same time. Like for example, I just learned the H COLL set and instead of going onto Pi I would learn the H ZBLL algs then go to Pi.

So is this a good idea or no? Also how do people recognize the cases?

 

[4Chan]

It's an okay idea.
I learned COLL first.

I recognize ZBLL by:

1. Positioning a corner, then looking at the edge cycle.
2. Looking at blocks of colour.
3. Guesstimating. (Mostly works.)

 

[joey]

I'd learn all of COLL first.

 

[masterofthebass]

I definitely think the recognition I use for ZB is super nice. All you do is look at the position of 2 edge stickers, and you know the case (after knowing the COLL ofc).

 

[Sakarie]

I think the best is the learn COLL first, but you could pick only COLL's that goes under ZZ-b, and then expand to first ZZ-b, and then ZZ-a.

 

[Sir E Brum]

COLL is just ZBLL minus the edge permutation. The COLL algs are also in the ZBLL set. A big thing about learning ZBLL is recognition. I identify ZBLL cases by COLL case then UF and UR relative to UFR. Seeing the COLL case is second nature for me now and everytime I see the edges oriented in the LL, even for CFOP, I can always identify the COLL case very quickly. So, I would recommend getting COLL down before trying ZBLL.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

COLL is just ZBLL minus the edge permutation. The COLL algs are also in the ZBLL set. A big thing about learning ZBLL is recognition. I identify ZBLL cases by COLL case then UF and UR relative to UFR. Seeing the COLL case is second nature for me now and everytime I see the edges oriented in the LL, even for CFOP, I can always identify the COLL case very quickly. So, I would recommend getting COLL down before trying ZBLL.

Basically my thoughts.