Suratha
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Hello,I am using CFOP as my main method.I want to learn a last slot+last layer method.So please tell which is the better method.
Poll: Which is the better last slot+last layer approach?
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TDM
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Less than an hour ago you said there is no best LL method.
Also, why make a poll about LS+LL options without including normal LS+OLL+PLL?
I'd say EOCPLS+2GLL, but only because I like 2-gen.
Also, why make a poll about LS+LL options without including normal LS+OLL+PLL?
I'd say EOCPLS+2GLL, but only because I like 2-gen.
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Yellowsnow98
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Winter variation is only 27 algs so you could start with that.
It is also a subset of RLS
It is also a subset of RLS
Suratha
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I am not asking the best last slot method but am asking a method which has comparatively better advantages such as usability.I am doing normal LS+OLL+PLL.I want to learn a LS+LL method to just reduce the number of moves I do in a solve.Yes,I said there is no 'best method'.I agree with that.But note the word here "Which is 'better' approach?"
I searched for the above method but couldn't find any algorithms.Can you give me some links for this method.
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scottishcuber
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The principle remains, whether you want the better or the best method, there are pros and cons to all variations. So you can't say which one is better any more than you can say which one is the best.
Suratha
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I agree with you.I want a method which can reduce the number of moves or to give a better case in the last layer.Other factors such as number of cases can be neglected.
TDM
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Then ZBLS+ZBLL or LS+1lLL.
rj
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I use edge control. 
Stefan
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It's included in "Any other"?
TDM
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I know, but it's the most used LS+LL method so I don't see why it shouldn't have its own option.
pipkiksass
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Lol, good comeback! They did say number of cases was irrelevant!
Kirjava
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Doing LS then using an LL system as a basic approach, then adding WV/etc for special cases appears to be working best for now.
Suratha
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Any other than ZBLS+ZBLL? I did say number of cases can be neglected but I can not memorize all ZBLS and ZBLL.I meant number of cases can be 25 to 70 or 80.
TDM
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So first you're saying we can neglect the number of cases, but now you're saying there's a limit?
If full ZB is too much, and even if VHLS+ZBLL is too many algs, you could try ZZ-b. It's more than 80, and of course you'll then have to learn ZZ. But it's less than ZBLL, and EOF2L is easier for OH than regular F2L.
But if you really want to keep to 80 algs or less, then just use CFOP with OLL-PLL, ZZ (COLL-EPLL, WV-PLL or OCLL-PLL), or Roux. Or you could try something like CFCE, but it's probably not a good idea.
Yellowsnow98
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Edge control + WV might work for low numbers of algs.
But it would be very slow.
But it would be very slow.
Dapianokid
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In my opinion, Edge control + WV works best. Although, it really only makes a huge difference in Petrus to use WV unless you're REALLY good at edge control (Which I'm not...)
Roux's LSE is a much faster system for LL, but it would mean learning an entirely different method...
Stick with whatever makes most sense to you and work at it. sueprfast LS isn't going to happen overnight.
Roux's LSE is a much faster system for LL, but it would mean learning an entirely different method...
Stick with whatever makes most sense to you and work at it. sueprfast LS isn't going to happen overnight.
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