[Help Thread] Pls help me convince my dad u can't solve a 3x3 blind with CFOP just like that.

Can you solve a Rubik's blindfolded with CFOP just like that

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 40.4%
  • No

    Votes: 17 36.2%
  • Yesnt

    Votes: 11 23.4%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .
I believe doing CFOP BLD is possible (it’s been done before as long as 10 years ago I think) especially with ZB becoming more prevalent and more resources are available. However, As a hypothetical, set up a difficult F2L pair by doing the inverse of the solution of the regular pair. Show him how many pieces are affected by this one pair, and how many pieces you’d have to memorize to solve his one pair and know what LL is. Next, set up two difficult pairs, and continue. Someone with excellent lookahead and planning could see three or even four pairs in advance, as most top solvers have done this before. Last Layer is the real difficulty, and ZBLS makes this a small bit easier, but unless you know all the patterns for 1LLL, it would be insanely difficult to correctly solve LL
 
This was traditionally called speedBLD, since the idea was to memorize the solve, pull on the blindfold, and then solve very quickly without pauses. It could result in very fast execution times, but obviously with very slow memorization times. Typically memorization ran near an hour, although even back many years ago I think a few people got down close to 10 minutes. So this is very possible, but it results in very slow times for normal 3BLD rules. It is a fun exercise, though - very much worth trying for the fun of it.

The way it is done typically is that you work out some of the moves, say the cross and maybe the first pair. Then you start over and find the pieces for the second pair you want to solve, and from the beginning trace in your mind where they will be after applying the moves through the first pair. Then you add the moves to solve those, and repeat through all the steps of solving. It's a straightforward process so it's not really that hard to understand. It just takes concentration and dedication to try it.
 
My dad keeps on thinking I can solve a Rubik's cube blind with cfop just like please help me convince him that it's not that easy and you need to learn a whole new method in order to solve a cube blind so I can show this thread later to prove him wrong.
fr my dad does that too
 
it is NOT impossible, but it is VERY hard unless you are already familiar with BLD memo. I think the main purpose of BLD methods is to make blind solving easier while still retaining speed. It’s easier to memo using a blind folded method compared to a “normal” method like CFOP. CFOP BLD requires a lot more planning and “mental visualization”. A method like Old Pochmann for example, can be used by anyone at any skill level because it’s pretty much:
Memo edges
Memo corners
Create story
Execute memo’ed moves
solved!
Compared to CFOP BLD:
Plan full F2L (or cross+4)
Predict OLL
Predict PLL from OLL while inspecting a fully scrambled cube

However, if you use ZB BLD, if becomes a bit easier (still hard)
Plan cross+3
Predict ZBLS case
Predict ZBLL from ZBLS while inspecting a fully scrambled cube

might be completely false though someone fact check pls
 
it is VERY hard unless you are already familiar with BLD memo
That makes no sense, they are completely different. Being familiar with BLD memo does not help at all with tracing out a CFOP solve.

I think the main purpose of BLD methods is to make blind solving easier while still retaining speed
Isn't that kind of the point lol

Memo edges
Memo corners
Create story
You don't create a story after memorizing, you do it while memorizing or not at all
 
My dad keeps on thinking I can solve a Rubik's cube blind with cfop just like please help me convince him that it's not that easy and you need to learn a whole new method in order to solve a cube blind so I can show this thread later to prove him wrong.
Buy something like 8 red cups and numbered ping-pong balls and put the balls in a random order let your dad memorize it and put the red cups over the balls then shuffle them and let him put it in the correct order
But the first time he needs to move two cups ever time and the second time he needs to move everything except for the cups he solved
Maybe he will understand it
 
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