PLL and OLL for Bigger Cubes

[cajuninms]

Hey guys,

I have been cubing for just a couple of months so far and have recently purchased a V-Cube 5 and V-Cube 7 to start with the big cubes. My current best is 33 sec and avg of 5 is 42. Currently the only PLL I use is Corner/Edge cycles, Y, T, and H. Which PLL's do I need to learn to get faster and which alg's should I learn for these PLL's so I can use them with bigger cubes.

Also, what order should I learn the OLL's? I only know the very basic ones that can be found on almost every YouTube video.

Thanks in advance.
Cory

 

[Crzyazn]

Chances are that you will learn reduction for your big cubes.

With reduction, all you need to know is how to do the reduction, and you have what is basically a chunky 3x3 at the end.

MAIN POINT: You don't need to learn any new PLLs, unless you want the 3x3 stage of the solve to get even faster

 

[cajuninms]

Right. That is what I was implying. I want my 3x3x3 times to be faster period as well as my bigger cube times.

 

[Crzyazn]

To prevent a mega-post, the following will be extremely generalized

For 3x3:
-Learn F2L or any other "pro method" and begin your road to sub20 times
-Minimal PLLs: A and U, learn the rest as you progress
-Practice til you get sub20, which is around the range you need for solid 3x3 stage times

For big cubes:
-Practice the full reduction, chances are 3x3 isn't where your problems lie
-Possibly relearn some PLLs that aren't good with big cubes (ex: M-slice U perm)

 

[mark3]

Any PLL will help you, since you can do every case it 2 steps, any new one you learn will be an improvement.

My recommendation, learn the G's (the scary looking ones). They are relativley fast algs and you will thank yourself later, as most cubers end up with those as their last 4.

 

[Nuceria]

i learned g's in the beginning because they showed up so damn often. get a good recognition system, and just go for it. A U G, T and Y because they're cool, save N's for last.

 

[cajuninms]

Alright, what should be a good F2L time to shoot for? My problem is just recognizing where the cubies are to pair up. I believe I have most of the pairing up sequences by intuition now, but it is just recognition that is my problem.

 

[mark3]

A good time depends on what overall time you are shooting for.

And if I can give one more piece of advice, start practicing your solves turning slowly. It will help your recognition and you will have less pauses during your F2L. It feels all wrong at first because you are on a timer and feel like you should be going fast, but trust me, it will help you in the end.