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Dual booting between Windows XP SP2 and Windows 7 beta Build 7000.
I use Linux (Open Suse) at work (as Server OS, in my client PC I use Windows XP)

When my brother gets his new pc, I'll heritate (lol) his, and I'll probably go for Windows Vista SP2 (as well as Windows 7 Beta in a separate partition) until Windows 7 is closer to a final release.
 
Let's keep this civilised people. Topics like this tend to get out of hand fast. If you have some beef with your OS, please follow this steps:
1. Take a breath
2. Think about some big problem in the world (hunger, disease, etc)
3. Now look at your tiny irrelevant problem and try to understand the cause
4. Finally, find a solution and be happier

Also, if you are going to make claims like A = fast, B = slow, C = insecure please include a reliable source for that. Remember that your 1 personal experience doesn't have to be the same for everyone.

Also remember that operating systems change quit rapidly, even within major version. Most complaints about Vista (sucks recources dry, UAC constantly nags, slow copying, no driver support), Linux (frequent need for commandline, no good software, no games, compiling everything yourself) and MAC (no business software, only 1 mousebutton, complete lockin by Apple) are simply not true. It also works the other way around, the best feature from all OS's will get copied (and often improved) on other OS's
 
julesv said:
i run Mac OS Leopard natively, but i dual boot XP and emulate Ubuntu Desktop and Backtrack 3. My favourite must be Backtrack 3, for people who know what I mean =)
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I do know what you mean, and it's probably my favorite network security/integrity testing software. Pure and simple.

:)

AvGalen makes a great point too though - people complain about stuff about each OS which often simply aren't true, it's simply a lack of know-how.

I'd honestly say for a NEW user, right out of the box with no experience on computers, XP is probably best followed shortly thereafter by OS X. (Depending on the individual)

Geeks/Tech heads should check out Linux and the hundreds of various flavors.

IT professionals need to look at things like Red Hat, BEOS and the server versions of Windows. (Sad to say, but between Exchange 07, the new Active Directory 08, and some of the newer virtual software that they're implementing, from a server standpoint M$ is getting MUCH better.)

It's all what you know and what you're trying to do with it :)
 
enigmahack said:
AvGalen makes a great point too though - people complain about stuff about each OS which often simply aren't true, it's simply a lack of know-how.
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Exactly :) This is a case where people would just stick with what they're used to, like how a lot of cubers are using Type As. For this situation, the people are thinking "the grass is greener on this side; there's only mud on the other side" :p
 
enigmahack said:
I'd honestly say for a NEW user, right out of the box with no experience on computers, XP is probably best followed shortly thereafter by OS X. (Depending on the individual)
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Please replace XP with Vista. I had XP SP2 (and later SP3) installed on my parents first computer and after two weeks they had filled it up with crapware to the point it became unusable. Vista (specifically UAC) has entirely eliminated that and after two years it is still clean as a whistle. The SPAM-filter in Windows Mail (Vista) works while Outlook Express (XP) simply doesn't have one and whenever they save something somewhere they can find it again on Vista (built-in search) where they couldn't with XP. I have seen this on many other pc's as well so if you have a pc with at least 512 MB RAM and 20 GB HD and can choose between XP or Vista I would really recommend Vista.
enigmahack said:
Geeks/Tech heads should check out Linux and the hundreds of various flavors.
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More people (not just geeks) should try it. Live CD's are a good basic test. Except for the fact that it was free (and I mean as beer in this case) I didn't like any Linux version I ever tried. I love the idea of a generic OS-wide package manager though.
enigmahack said:
(Sad to say, but between Exchange 07, the new Active Directory 08, and some of the newer virtual software that they're implementing, from a server standpoint M$ is getting MUCH better.)
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Why is that sad to say? I would love for all OS's to greatly improve. There is still so much wrong with every OS out there today that they all need decennia to improve untill people will complain about the weather more than they complain about computers like in the good old days :)

Also, I don't want to start a PC-support thread (or turn this into one), but if I see some more untrue statements from now on I will try to correct them
 
d4m4s74 said:
I have some diskspace left, should I install windows 7 beta or wait till the release and replace vista?
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If you have to ask such a question, the answer is "wait till the release". (I would wait at least a couple of weeks longer)

Seriously, Beta's are only meant for testing purposes and they might screw up your entire system (not just the Windows 7 partition). If you have to ask if it is a good idea to run a beta .... you shouldn't run a beta.
 
AvGalen said:
d4m4s74 said:
I have some diskspace left, should I install windows 7 beta or wait till the release and replace vista?
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If you have to ask such a question, the answer is "wait till the release". (I would wait at least a couple of weeks longer)

Seriously, Beta's are only meant for testing purposes and they might screw up your entire system (not just the Windows 7 partition). If you have to ask if it is a good idea to run a beta .... you shouldn't run a beta.
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i agree.

and also, the windows 7 beta runs out in august - you'd have to re-license it. and that would mean waiting until the release... (i think)

put it on a HDD that you have no other use for, if you want to see what its like. otherwise, forget it.
 
Escher said:
AvGalen said:
d4m4s74 said:
I have some diskspace left, should I install windows 7 beta or wait till the release and replace vista?
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If you have to ask such a question, the answer is "wait till the release". (I would wait at least a couple of weeks longer)

Seriously, Beta's are only meant for testing purposes and they might screw up your entire system (not just the Windows 7 partition). If you have to ask if it is a good idea to run a beta .... you shouldn't run a beta.
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i agree.

and also, the windows 7 beta runs out in august - you'd have to re-license it. and that would mean waiting until the release... (i think)

put it on a HDD that you have no other use for, if you want to see what its like. otherwise, forget it.
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Or much rather use a virtual machine! That is my preferred way for testing OS's and other software. It will take some effort to get Aero working though
 
I'm not saying that every version of Vista is the same as the one I installed, but if some are fine and others are bad, then it's problem is its inconsistency. I think Vista can be great if you know what to do with it (3rd party downloads and the like) but out of the box, I think it isn't as good as leopard out of the box.
 
JTW2007 said:
I'm not saying that every version of Vista is the same as the one I installed, but if some are fine and others are bad, then it's problem is its inconsistency. I think Vista can be great if you know what to do with it (3rd party downloads and the like) but out of the box, I think it isn't as good as leopard out of the box.
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There are only two version you can install out of the box:
RTM (the original or Release-to-manufacturer one from end of 2006)
SP1 (the updated one or Service Pack one from beginning of 2008)

All other version (Home, Business, Ultimate, etc) just include (or miss) different applications and are targeted at different markets. Money-wise that distinction seems to work for Microsoft, but I hate it and like the OS X idea of "1 ring to rule them all" better

Comparing two OS's out of the box is useless now. Both OS's have been out for quite a long time now and have received many updates (big and small)
 
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