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Bertie, Ben, Chris, Callum, Steven Kearns, Oliver Wheat and yours truly are the 7 that I was thinking of. MBLD is way more interesting than a year ago.

I won't lay down any challenges by naming who I think is ready for 20 :)

Ollie is registered too but I didn't count him because these days he seems to prefer smaller attempts.
 
Thanks Mark, @mark49152. Practice pays off though I wasnt able to make it the Finals. My excuse is that solving at dinner time is my weakness since ever. I had 1:13 in the first solve but off by M2 move during edges. In the third I had a long pause on last two targets - I had to review all edges to find missed targets. I'm gonna to keep practice - next comp in 6 weeks.
 
A question for experienced 3BLD-ers. I am starting with 3-cycles. First edges. For now I try to feel how it goes, just by making my own cycles from my M2 experience . I follow Mark's advanced M2 instructions and I think I understand the basics. I try to experiment by placing difficult pairs in the easiest position. So one of the pair letters to the DB, FU, and target UB positions. I try not to get lost in those over 700 comms and just check how my solution compares to the already made lists. I found some lists on the forum, but it is hard to search over too many pages.
Can you advise me where to find good spreadsheet with easy to find comms. Maybe some nice video tutorial with example wlakthroughs?
 
Those M slice cases that Mark described so understandable are the base I use for everything. I like to understend 3 cycle, not just learn. I also never systematically learned the comms for M2 , only those M cases FU and BD, and DB, UF,BU.
When I started by reading comms from the long list, I got confused and it was just too much comms that look alike . Now, by following this advanced M2 guide, I slowly understand what is happening around the cube. I know that those corner 3-cycles are much harder as OP is nothing like that at all. On the other hand M2 is very usefull for transition to 3-cycle.
 
@mitja Roman has all the good comms lists on his site along with other blind resources http://bestsiteever.ru
@Ollie Frost has a nice video to help start learning comms
I've been learning by extending the best stuff on Mark's thread initially and then some basic R2 stuff.
My favourite new alg is (M' U M' U) x2.
Of course if you really want to save time you'll get a better return from learning corners but they are much harder.
@mark49152 I've seen your thread linked to off-site more than once.
 
mitja said:
A question for experienced 3BLD-ers. I am starting with 3-cycles. First edges. For now I try to feel how it goes, just by making my own cycles from my M2 experience . I follow Mark's advanced M2 instructions and I think I understand the basics. I try to experiment by placing difficult pairs in the easiest position. So one of the pair letters to the DB, FU, and target UB positions. I try not to get lost in those over 700 comms and just check how my solution compares to the already made lists. I found some lists on the forum, but it is hard to search over too many pages.
Can you advise me where to find good spreadsheet with easy to find comms. Maybe some nice video tutorial with example wlakthroughs?
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My 3 cents: I've start with advanced M2 made by Mark. It showed that FU, DB are the best helpers in the world. When I felt comfortable I've started adding some setups like u/u' (not U/U') or using comms like M', U2 or M, D2 - I think Mark mention it in his advanced M2. I also did experiments with M2 setups and cancelations like M2: [M, U' L' U] which in execution goes like: M' U' L' U M' U' L U M2. Currently I've started adding algs that do some nice thing and I didnt know them like M' U' M U' M' U' M U'. I use lists mostly when I dont feel comfortable with a solution. I've found Meneghetti's list as the closest to my preferences. I think edges are esier to learn than corners.

My solve from a first round. I wish I could do this in a final. I'm gonna keep practice to make it on the next comp. This could be sub-1: memo could be 5 seconds faster but I've checked all once again. Execution of corners was poor and the pause on the edges didnt help. But still - I'm happy with the solve and the space for improvement.

 
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h2f said:
My 3 cents: I've start with advanced M2 made by Mark. It showed that FU, DB are the best helpers in the world. When I felt comfortable I've started adding some setups like u/u' (not U/U') or using comms like M', U2 or M, D2 - I think Mark mention it in his advanced M2. I also did experiments with M2 setups and cancelations like M2: [M, U' L' U] which in execution goes like: M' U' L' U M' U' L U M2. Currently I've started adding algs that do some nice thing and I didnt know them like M' U' M U' M' U' M U'. I use lists mostly when I dont feel comfortable with a solution. I've found Meneghetti's list as the closest to my preferences. I think edges are esier to learn than corners.

My solve from a first round. I wish I could do this in a final. I'm gonna keep practice to make it on the next comp. This could be sub-1: memo could be 5 seconds faster but I've checked all once again. Execution of corners was poor and the pause on the edges didnt help. But still - I'm happy with the solve and the space for improvement.

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Great solve Grzegorz! Right now I just think if I could get my memo anywhere close to that I wouldn't care how long execution took. Of course I know I would feel different *if* I was ever close. It reminds me of watching badmephisto videos where he talked about cube rotations taking time and I thought come on, I don't think I'll ever be fast enough to care about rotating the cube once. :)
 
NEW PB!

5 months into cubing and I just got my very first sub 40 second solve on a 3x3.
38.63 seconds.

My Avg of 5 is 53.67. Only a week ago I broke the sub 1 minute average of 5. Now I'm pushing sub 50. I never dreamed I'd get a sub 40. Now sub 30 is looking like it's possible.

So far nearly ALL of my time saving has been due to better cross building and better F2L recognition. In a typical 55 second solve I'm not finishing F2L until 45 seconds in. So there's certainly room to improve there.
 
NewbieCuber said:
NEW PB!

5 months into cubing and I just got my very first sub 40 second solve on a 3x3.
38.63 seconds.

My Avg of 5 is 53.67. Only a week ago I broke the sub 1 minute average of 5. Now I'm pushing sub 50. I never dreamed I'd get a sub 40. Now sub 30 is looking like it's possible.

So far nearly ALL of my time saving has been due to better cross building and better F2L recognition. In a typical 55 second solve I'm not finishing F2L until 45 seconds in. So there's certainly room to improve there.
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Nice job! It's fun how what seems possible keeps improving. Have you ever video'd yourself? I know for me when I watch myself no matter what I average, I always pause more than I realize. Now I'm at a point where sub 15 seems pretty difficult to average... Until I watch a video of my solves and I see tons of spots I could speed up. :)
 
I guess everybody saw this by now, looks like they (Rubik's) had a big plot and the legal action was just a beginning.

Money & power from Red Bulls + Rubik's name. Is it going to be pro-cubing (pro - not by the capabilities or speed but but by incomes lead/sponsored by Red Bulls) vs amateurs (WCA, since nobody makes living out of just competition) split?

Does anybody know the history of xTreme sports whether it was a smooth transition or some kind of controversy between existing organization who developed the community vs big corporate like Red Bulls or Rubik's?

 
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