OCLL vs COLL

[falcon71]

All right, thank you very much!
So it seems that COLL is nice to know, but not always helpful for speedsolving.

I agree with irontwig. The 2x2x2 block can often be easily planned and placing the two last edges is trivial afterwards.

 

[ariasamie]

Hi!

I've now learned all OLL algorithms and I'm thinking about how to expand Friedrich.

lol

 

[oll+phase+sync]

for exsample
When I get a Sune OLL case I do a Sune in 4 of 6 cases, I do a niklas 1st when it solves all corners and 2nd to prevent on of the 5 long diagonal PLLs (E,N,V,Y).
This way I can restrict the additional recognition to just looking at two stickers, wich is near to nothing. (regular coll recognition needs 3 -4 stickers)
The other Sune-COLLs I know I don't use in fridrich solves.

I don't know if someone else is using this for all OLL cases.

 

[GG]

Niklas vs Sune

Pretty self explanatory,
I can sub 0.7 niklas anytime really,
But I can't sub1 sune,
For anyone who is lost:

Sune R U R' U R U2 R'
Niklas R U' L' U R' U' L

What do you guys prefer using?

 

[ChickenWrap]

I use both, but sune is faster for me.

 

[cubernya]

With corners: whatever works. Without considering corners: sune

 

[kunparekh18]

Plot twist : Niklas IS a Sune :/

I can do 2-gen Sune faster.

 

[GG]

With corners: whatever works. Without considering corners: sune

What do you mean by that? Do you mean as in the coll case?

 

[brian724080]

I just standardise it as using Sune even though I know both, because recognition is easier, and I can sub-0.5 Sune.

My Niklas is slower, about 0.7 seconds, and awkward to perform.

 

[Bindedsa]

I can't sub 1 either, but I only use Niklas for COLL and even then I check edges to see If I'll get a T Perm because it is easy to cancel into. (I guess that's just ZBLL)