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[shicklegroober]

Well hello, I've been solving the 3x3 for a few months I started out with the dan brown beginner tutorial on YouTube and have since then learned the intuitive F2L. I'm trying to figure out a good approach to learning the PLLs and OLLs but I'm pretty intimidated. I've just been using a Rubik's brand 3x3 and I bought some CRC for it today so I'm excited to see how that turns out. I also am working on the 4x4 and 5x5 I can solve them but I have to look and the algs for the parity cases. I got the eastsheen brand 4 and 5 off of eBay and had the unpleasant experience of taking apart and reassembling the 4x4, there are a lot of pieces. I'd also really appreciate any suggestions for tackling OLLs and PLLs and alg memorization. I'm hyped to be apart of the forum and I hope to contribute/help out others who are just being introduced to the cube world thanks for reading!


-Ryan

 

[pjk]

Ryan, welcome to the forum! I hope you'll learn a lot here.

 

[TsColin]

I learned from Dan Brown also, then did the same thing and started learning F2L

 

[PeterV]

Welcome to the forums! To answer your questions, learning all PLL's and OLL's can be intimidating at first, but it's not really all that bad. Learn all your PLL's first, takling them one at a time. Learn to execute and recognize them as fast as possible.

As for OLL, a 1-look OLL will only save you 2-3 seconds on any given solve. Focus on 2-Look OLL and full PLL for now.

 

[AvGalen]

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6815&postcount=4

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Don't be intimidated by OLLs and PLLs, just take them in a stride! Remember, we're all here to help you with anything you need

 

[hippofluff]

Learn and master 2 look PLL before learning all 21. It makes it easy prey for a speed cuber

 

[shicklegroober]

Thanks for the advice and support!
Is it easiest to just start with a solved cube, then do the algs for OLL/PLL and then repeat them until you have them down? Or is there an easier way to focus on just one OLL/PLL at a time?

 

[(X)]

Welcome to the forums! To answer your questions, learning all PLL's and OLL's can be intimidating at first, but it's not really all that bad. Learn all your PLL's first, takling them one at a time. Learn to execute and recognize them as fast as possible.

As for OLL, a 1-look OLL will only save you 2-3 seconds on any given solve. Focus on 2-Look OLL and full PLL for now.

You don't have to learn all the 21 PLL's at one time, you can solve the last layer using very few of the PLL's/OLL's, and you should not learn all the PLL's before you start with OLL's

 

[hippofluff]

Thanks for the advice and support!
Is it easiest to just start with a solved cube, then do the algs for OLL/PLL and then repeat them until you have them down? Or is there an easier way to focus on just one OLL/PLL at a time?

On this website,http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/pll/pll they give you algs to setup cases. Also as you probably know you can just repeat one alg over and over successfully and the cube will be solved.

 

[AvGalen]

Thanks for the advice and support!
Is it easiest to just start with a solved cube, then do the algs for OLL/PLL and then repeat them until you have them down? Or is there an easier way to focus on just one OLL/PLL at a time?

On this website,http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/pll/pll they give you algs to setup cases. Also as you probably know you can just repeat one alg over and over successfully and the cube will be solved.

Setting up a case is just doing the solution in inverse

And please provide us with that 1 alg that will solve the cube when I repeat it over and over because I don't think it exists. I think what you mean is that performing a PLL several times (starting from solved) will solve the cube again

 

[04mucklowd]

I have a good tutorial on my ou tube page about geting started learning the fridrich method
You tube user: 04mucklowd

 

[shicklegroober]

Does anyone think it is a bad idea to learn 2 Look PLL and OLL first and getting comfortable and then move on to learning all of them or is it better to just focus on learning all the algs?

 

[Gparker]

heres how i learned,

Beginners method with Dan Brown(almost sounds like a book title lol)
Beginners method with tricks(lubing,sanding,shortcut algs etc.)
Intuitive f2l from plurple73 on youtube
2 look oll and pll from badmephisto
some more olls and full pll( which is where i am now)

i learned about 1 pll or oll every other day, the olls are really easy, and plls arent too hard once you get used to them

 

[AvGalen]

Does anyone think it is a bad idea to learn 2 Look PLL and OLL first and getting comfortable and then move on to learning all of them or is it better to just focus on learning all the algs?

Your first plan is a good idea

 

[shicklegroober]

Just an update on progress and such. I've got the 2 Look OLL and PLL almost fully memorized. The "Headlights" OLL and the E perm PLL are the only two I'm not a hundred percent confident with. Also, does anyone know how long the AIR shipping takes when you order from cubefan/cube4you. It said 2-4 weeks but I'm hoping that is an overstatement.
Thanks!
-Ryan

 

[shicklegroober]

Update:

Full PLL as of today evening
and new PB: 39.45

Using intuitive f2l, 2 look OLL, and full PLL

 

[holypasta]

there is no perfect way to memorize algorithms; no universal method that fits everyone. the trick is to develop [personal] mnemonics for each individual algorithm. also, you can utilize triggers to your memorizational benefit. a trigger, in case you don't already know, is a string of notation which pops up in many algorithms. for example, [R U R' U'] is a common trigger. one algorithm that contains this trigger -- you may already know this one -- is [F (R U R' U') F'].

the best kind of mnemonic is one that you think of yourself. however, if you can't think of one, badmephisto has some good ones on his site. if he doesn't have one that works for you, feel free to ask me. of course, some tricky algorithms just don't really have any good mnemonics.

good luck!