New vs. Old DIY Type-A Cubes

[Dyste]

No, I get what he's saying. That's not the point. I just didn't get any large washers. There's supposed to be small and large ones. The small ones go on the screw, and under the spring, while the large one goes below the screw's head, where it rests on the plastic. I'm merely saying that I didn't receive any of those with my diy, thus it may be the cause of my cube's instability, besides that the core is faulty, since there are 2 sides where I am not able to screw them in very far, so that they are loose, while if I screw the other faces in, they are tight. The extent to which those two centers can be tightened is restricted for some reason. I'm guessing that there was something wrong with the rotation of the screw, as it dug into core, or else the holes made were not measured out very well to begin with.

 

[Ron]

Oops, so these rings are called washers.
And the things I called washers are of course springs.
OK, so in the bag were screws, springs and two types of washers.
The small washers go below the spring. The big washers go below the screw head. Sometimes I need to add two big washers because the screw does not go any deeper.

 

[hdskull]

I get a lot of extra big washers for my purchases, and I have no idea what it's for.

I still don't get how adding washers makes the cube more stable, explain ?

 

[Ron]

I still don't get how adding washers makes the cube more stable, explain ?

Sometimes the screw won't go any deeper. Looks like it hits the bottom of the screw hole. In that case adding a washer helps. The screw depth will be the same, but the extra washer will make the center go down a little more.

 

[Dyste]

I see you got the same problem with the screw as me. But yea, I'll need to purchase that bag of extra components, because I never got large washers to begin with. I did however, get an extra small one, which won't help in the least. I'm wondering if puzzleproz cubes will come with better cores and all the necessary supplies. cube4you.com seems to have a need to be more organized.

 

[h3ndrik]

puzzleproz diy cubes come with seven big and seven small washers.I don't know about the core though, I put the screw in the core as far as it's possible once. I do that to have better guidance for the screw when I put the cube together. I haven't purchased anywhere but puzzleproz, so all I can say is the cubes they sell are flawless.

 

[VooX]

Definitely not flawless at puzzleproz

puzzleproz diy cubes come with seven big and seven small washers.I don't know about the core though, I put the screw in the core as far as it's possible once. I do that to have better guidance for the screw when I put the cube together. I haven't purchased anywhere but puzzleproz, so all I can say is the cubes they sell are flawless.

It is true that puzzleproz have complete sets of washers (and even an extra one of each). It is NOT true that the cubes are flawless.

1st problem: They do not tell you what grade of cube you are buying. I have bought 3 puzzles from puzzleproz: 2 white and 1 red.

In theory, both colours are available as class-A cubes. Puzzleproz makes no mention that they are different grades, but the red cube is FAR INFERIOR to the white ones I bought. The corners do not fit tightly and wiggle very loosely. There are MAJOR bumps on the internals that cause the cube to feel like there is notches on the inside of it. PLUS... you cannot spin or move any face nearly as quickly or smoothly as on the white cube.

For 2 cubes of the same price they should have the same quality, or be labeled differently.


2nd problem: The cubes require filing on the inside to make them smooth.

The 2 white ones were for myself. Each puzzle required me to file some internals of pieces with an ultra-fine diamond coated file. Some moulding marks were SO BAD that the cube would JAM and refuse to turn any further unless I FORCED it. (And this was on just basic moves). As well on the exterior surface, molding lines need to be filed so your stickers won't peel off prematurely.


3rd (and biggest problem): Puzzleproz cubes are almost TWICE THE PRICE as the ones available at cube4you.com. In addition the lube sold at puzzleproz is WAY overpriced when compared to sites like cubelube.com


I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND PUZZLEPROZ FOR THE ABOVE REASONS. THEY OVERCHARGE FOR THEIR CUBES/LUBE AND DO NOT SPECIFY THE GRADE OF CUBE YOU ARE BUYING.

 

[ExoCorsair]

Your first problem is the result of different plastics used for the different colors. Red is pretty bad, and so is yellow, in my opinion.

Second problem is the result of just old DIYs.

Third... Well, that's Puzzleproz.

 

[Dyste]

Well, that's odd, considering the seller has a 100% positive rating and basically the vast majority of the comments are good. The shipping seems a lot better than cube4you.com anyway. How would you compare puzzleproz cubes to those from cube4you?

 

[ExoCorsair]

cube4you gets new (better) cubes faster than puzzleproz. I assume puzzleproz buys from cube4you or 9spuzzles, actually.

So cube4you supplies cubes that are either better than or identical to puzzleproz.

 

[h3ndrik]

VooX:

my cube was in perfect condition. i am sorry to hear that yours were so terrible.
he says that there are no diffenence of performance between the different colored diy kits, which supports the argument of ExoCorsair about the different kind of plastic.
why didn't you complain?

the cubes at puzzleproz are quite expensive, but i think the shipping is less compared to cube4you.

puzzleproz sells 1 syringe of lube for 2$
cubelube sells 10 fillings for a syringe for 3,95$ so 1 filling equals 39,5 cents.
an applicator syringe costs 2,50$, therfore:
1 syringe at puzzleproz equals 2$
1 syringe at cubelube equals 2,89$

 

[Dyste]

Um..,yea..., if you wanted a syringe for each application. You only need one. In fact, you don't even need one. They said that they now come with an applicator cap or whatever. Of course, they never did answer my questions, so I didn't feel like buying from people who don't even respond to potential customers. I bought Castle Pure Silicone Spray instead, and it works pretty well.

On another note, I've heard a lot about pieces popping on cube4you cubes.

 

[ExoCorsair]

Also, I forgot to mention, you want the yellow cores for DIYs. In my opinion, Rubik's DIY cores are the best, but as far as Chinese DIY cores go, any color that's not yellow is not going to be very good. If you did not get a yellow core, I am quite certain that you did not receive an (a) grade cube.

Cubelube isn't very good anyway. A $2 can of silicone lubricant is much more satisfactory and will last longer than "one syringe of Cubelube".

On another note, I've heard a lot about pieces popping on cube4you cubes.

That is highly dependent on the person who assembled the cube; odds are that the screws are not screwed in far enough and therefore the springs are too loose.

 

[Dyste]

Also, I forgot to mention, you want the yellow cores for DIYs. In my opinion, Rubik's DIY cores are the best, but as far as Chinese DIY cores go, any color that's not yellow is not going to be very good. If you did not get a yellow core, I am quite certain that you did not receive an (a) grade cube.

That's kind of a fumbled statement. So we want yellow cores, but not from the Chinese? Now that sorta sounds racist, too, haha. Then again, you said that if we don't get yellow cores, we were taken for a ride.. That is thoroughly contradictory. Care to clarify?

 

[masterofthebass]

I can clarify for him. He means that if you get a Chinese DIY, not a Rubik's one, the yellow core is almost a necessity. In his opinion the cores that come from Rubik's DIYs are the best, but the best core from the Chinese cubes is the yellow one. I have a blue cube with a core that's not yellow, and it's the worst cube in the world. I'm going to order a yellow core as soon as I make an order with cube4you.

 

[Dyste]

So do you think that all the diy colors from cube4you are created equal, or do you have a conviction that some specific ones have better quality?

 

[masterofthebass]

Each color is made of different plasitcs with different dyes. The quality of some colors are worse than others. I can't remember where, but Exo posted his opinions of all of them (He has one of almost every color). But the (a)s are made with better quality plastic than the other types, but I think the colors also vary in quality.

 

[ExoCorsair]

Apologies for the awkward sentence up there, but yes, masterofthebase pretty much hit the nail on the head.

I don't remember posting a list... But I will say that I have had the best experiences with green and white cubes. Transparent cubes (b) are hit or miss; they can either be really amazing or really crappy. Gold cubes (b) are pretty awful compared to any other cubes, but they're still pretty good. But bear in mind, this is just my opinion, and some of my DIYs are comparatively old.

 

[Dyste]

What do you mean by "old"?

 

[ExoCorsair]

I got them before the summer; there may have been modifications to the DIYs since then.