New V-Cube 7s!

[Derrick Eide17]

I Think I like bread

 

[Muesli]

I think they may be able to do it. Split the corner piece into thirds, then glue the three sections together.

Exactly what I was thinking. It might be a faff, but it is the only real way I can think that they could achieve it.

 

[esquimalt1]

I think they should probably cap the holes on the corners if they were to do that.

Derrick why aren't you on msn?

 

[qqwref]

If they can make 3-color corners (and not just 2) I would personally really like to see a fully 6-plastic version of the Dazzler. It would be really cool to have one of those.

 

[esquimalt1]

If they can make 3-color corners (and not just 2) I would personally really like to see a fully 6-plastic version of the Dazzler. It would be really cool to have one of those.

Yeah, that would be amazing. No worries about stickers peeling or anything like that. If the centers and corners were normal colours, I'd so get it.

 

[qqwref]

Yeah. As far as I can tell the centers are stylistic (center caps can be made in all colors), although the corners might well be because it's just too difficult to do it in 3 colors, even if 2 is possible.

 

[panyan]

but the argument is that you cant have corner pieces made out of diferent pieces of plastic because they would be too weak, thus, the corners must be one colour.

Why would they be weak? There are many ways to make strong corners
which have two or more colors, especially in mass production.


Pantazis

Remember they weren't able to make the corners multicolored corners on the Dazzler, so they wouldn't be able to on the ILLusion.

Q + A =

 

[Muesli]

but the argument is that you cant have corner pieces made out of diferent pieces of plastic because they would be too weak, thus, the corners must be one colour.

Why would they be weak? There are many ways to make strong corners
which have two or more colors, especially in mass production.


Pantazis

Remember they weren't able to make the corners multicolored corners on the Dazzler, so they wouldn't be able to on the ILLusion.

Q + A =

You say that, but there is absolutley no evidence that they made the corners white on the Dazzler purely because they couldn't manufacture them. I have stated in a previous post that the colourless corners add a potential parity problem to the puzzle, so this could be a deliberate move.

The “Dazzler” contains white corners and centers, adding a seventh color to your challenge,

 

[Me Myself & Pi]

You say that, but there is absolutley no evidence that they made the corners white on the Dazzler purely because they couldn't manufacture them. I have stated in a previous post that the colourless corners add a potential parity problem to the puzzle, so this could be a deliberate move.

Yeah, you're right, there is no evidence to say that they didn't make multicolored corners. I just think that it's not likely.

But anyway, it really doesn't add any new parity errors. The most you'll get is when you'll have to switch two opposite edges when solving it as a 3x3. All you'd have to do it apply the T-Perm. You wouldn't know whether or not you got a "void cube" parity error.

 

[RubiksMathMaster]

You say that, but there is absolutley no evidence that they made the corners white on the Dazzler purely because they couldn't manufacture them. I have stated in a previous post that the colourless corners add a potential parity problem to the puzzle, so this could be a deliberate move.

Yeah, you're right, there is no evidence to say that they didn't make multicolored corners. I just think that it's not likely.

But anyway, it really doesn't add any new parity errors. The most you'll get is when you'll have to switch two opposite edges when solving it as a 3x3. All you'd have to do it apply the T-Perm. You wouldn't know whether or not you got a "void cube" parity error.

OMGOMGOMGOMOMGOMGOGM ITS MYMYSELFANDPI DA BEST CUBER AROUND LET GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE PLEASE MENTION ME IN ONE OF YOUR VIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ehem lol im not making fun of you, anyway... i might buy both of them so yeah...when i make a vid, hopefully u guys will stop arguing, anyway pi, u and the 5cubers are my cubing idol...yeah....i guess

 

[Me Myself & Pi]

OMGOMGOMGOMOMGOMGOGM ITS MYMYSELFANDPI DA BEST CUBER AROUND LET GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE PLEASE MENTION ME IN ONE OF YOUR VIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ehem lol im not making fun of you, anyway... i might buy both of them so yeah...when i make a vid, hopefully u guys will stop arguing, anyway pi, u and the 5cubers are my cubing idol...yeah....i guess

lol, thanks for you support!

Anyway, someone who was actually at the competition, testified this:

The illusion was at Verdes' stand at the WC. The other three sides have an inverted pattern, except for the corners which are still white. I think that's kinda disappointing.

- http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14908&p=182359#p182359

So at least, now we officially know! Yay!

Still no word about the two capitol "L's" though...

 

[esquimalt1]

I have problems imagining that... haha

 

[Muesli]

Still no word about the two capitol "L's" though...

Maybe they're trying to kill us all off with some terrible disease. It is called the ILLusion after all.

 

[Me Myself & Pi]

Okay, I've made the ILLusion using the simulator, CuberTwister, based on the information we have here:
http://www.randelshofer.ch/cubetwister/
The program allows me to color the stickers any way I want, for a lot of puzzles. Here's some photos I've taken of it:

1st Pic: The same position as shown on the V-Cube website.
2nd Pic: Rotated to show one of the sides with an inverted checker pattern, & two sides with the regular checker.
3rd Pic: The other 3 sides of the ILLusion with the inverted checkers. Notice the white corners.

1st Pic: This is what the cube looks like when the checker is undone.
2nd Pic: & the other 3 sides.
3rd Pic: Scrambled!

If you'd like to check out the cube for yourself, download the program & then open this file with it:
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/download/file.php?id=13124

 

[panyan]

^hmmm, good work

 

[Muesli]

That is actually very, very cool.

 

[Me Myself & Pi]

Oh, actually, there is only ONE inverted checker pattern. Here's some pictures that were just uploaded to twisypuzzles.com:
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14908&p=182496#p182496

So grr! Now I have to redo the CubeTwister thing & remake my YouTube video!

But this certainly makers more sense. Now you can't undo the checker pattern. You have to solve it in the checker.

 

[Muesli]

Dammit Pi. You could just re-edit it I suppose.

 

[qqwref]

On the basis that only one side has the swapped pattern, I made an ILLusion sim. (The default cube to play with is 7x7x7. Even cubes will not work properly but I didn't disable them because I'm lazy. I have no idea if cuboids would work. Actually I don't guarantee that this works at all.)

mzrg.com/filepost/IsoILLusionSim.jar

PS: I got a 1:55 on it (sub-2 minutes woo). Much faster is possible but I don't feel like practicing it atm.

 

[PEZenfuego]

Wait? That isn't as cool as you thought it was Pi.

Since only one side is scrambleable (not a word) all you have to do is fix one side. Leaving that sides alone, you can do a billion twists and turns and it won't scramble...right?