New CFOP Substep Competition

[TDM]

Well you have the second best split score in the group - maybe I should shade that green

It's interesting that the faster cubers tend to have better cross splits - this lends weight to my theory that cross is the last step to see improvement as it's the hardest step to really get fast at.

Yes, I've never really practised my cross or cross+1 much until recently, and they have definitely been the worst part of my solve. I still wouldn't expect my cross to be very good though.

If this thread achieves anything, it's to tell us all that our cross+1 needs improvement. In fact, it started as a cross+1 comp in Marcel's thread. So to keep the focus on cross+1, I'll post a graph each week of cross+1 progress. (To get on the graph you need an entry that week plus at least two previous entries.)

This week's "steep as a ski jump" prize goes to RjFx2 with honourable mentions to TDM and sk8reman41.

graph

It looks like I'm actually improving. That doesn't happen often But if you exclude the first and last points, it looks like I'm not actually progressing...

Nice going TDM.. I see I ended where you started.. Now if only I could get your sub 4 in as few weeks as you did

Thanks I wish I could consistently have a sub-4 cross+1 though, or at least average that... I'd imagine I'm much slower in solves. Practising just the cross helps, especially blindfolded; my cross was very bad, and although it's now better it certainly could be improved further. You can also look at optimal cross solutions on jarcs for tricks that you could possibly use.

 

[mark49152]

But if you exclude the first and last points, it looks like I'm not actually progressing...

Well yeah, if you take out the second and second-last too, you're getting worse . Don't be too hard on yourself, your trend is clearly downwards!

 

[TDM]

Well yeah, if you take out the second and second-last too, you're getting worse . Don't be too hard on yourself, your trend is clearly downwards!

You can't take points out from the middle of the data; when we calculate averages we only remove the fastest and slowest for a reason I really hope I am actually improving though; it'd be a nice change.
Also I did my solves for the comp and edited my results into my first post this round.

 

[MarcelP]

Round 16

Cross + 1 : 4.84 4.68 6.61 4.29 4.04 (6.80) 5.34 5.69 (3.82) 4.97 4.69 5.24 = 5.04 // I say, sub 5 is around the corner

Pairs: 9.60 10.15 (7.96) 9.32 (11.53) 10.91 9.43 10.59 8.70 9.58 11.03 10.21 = 9.95 // Yuk.. is pairs my worst part now?

LS + LL: 8.92 7.40 8.98 10.07 8.99 (10.81) 7.41 7.91 8.27 (6.87) 7.92 7.11 = 8.30 // Sounds about right

 

[h2f]

Round 16

Cross + 1 Average: 6.76

6.37 5.89 6.06 5.06 5.50 8.90 (4.05) 9.01 8.55 5.72 6.55 (9.29)

Pairs Average: 12.39

12.87 13.22 (18.13) 12.49 10.70 12.78 13.78 10.19 12.65 (10.12) 11.04 14.21

LS + LL Average: 10.31

11.14 10.31 10.08 11.61 9.83 (14.47) 9.53 8.90 10.00 11.31 (6.72) - OLL skip, G perm 10.38

I practice pairs on and on and it looks like it works. And it looks splits are still too high.

 

[RjFx2]

If this thread achieves anything, it's to tell us all that our cross+1 needs improvement. In fact, it started as a cross+1 comp in Marcel's thread. So to keep the focus on cross+1, I'll post a graph each week of cross+1 progress. (To get on the graph you need an entry that week plus at least two previous entries.)

This week's "steep as a ski jump" prize goes to RjFx2 with honourable mentions to TDM and sk8reman41.

Hey, it shows that I've been practicing cross+1. I still can't figure out the first f2l pair during inspection though. I just haven't been cubing much for the past five days so I need to catch up on it.

 

[RjFx2]

Round 16

Cross+1: 6.909
7.067, (10.667), 7.568, 5.334, 5.334 [LOL], 6.768, 4.284, 7.417, 5.768, (4.035), 9.001, 10.551

Pairs: 11.319
10.817, 12.184, 12.234, 9.901, (7.501), 10.251, 11.151, 9.251, 11.734, 11.251, (15.401), 14.417

LS+LL: 12.004
14.068, (9.001), 9.401, 11.584, 9.551, 12.134, 11.984, 13.234, 15.651, 12.084, (16.551), 10.351
Sorry about lateness on LS+LL, I did them I just never posted them.

Average Solve: 24.573
Best Solve: 16.787
Worst Solve: 34.919
Haven't cubed as much in the past 5 days so yeah... I'll get back on track but going on vac soon. Got worst solve under 35...

 

[RjFx2]

17...

 

[Rocky0701]

17...

Chill out He's a grown man with a job and a family, he'll post it when he gets time.

 

[mark49152]

Chill out He's a grown man with a job and a family, he'll post it when he gets time.

And there is World Cup to be watched! I should get to this tomorrow - sorry for the delay.

 

[RjFx2]

I'm not a patience person lol. Sorry I just love competitions... I am a waiting hater.

 

[mark49152]

Round 16 Results

A few pairs melt-downs this week... perhaps they were hard scrambles? Congrats to TDM for the best splits score.

 

[mark49152]

Since I'm late with scrambles this week, here's a special treat for the US holiday weekend, especially for those who are looking forward to cubing the whole weekend. Two weeks' scrambles in one go! Round 17 will close this Sunday same as usual, and Round 18 next Sunday. You can submit Round 18 results before Round 17 closes if you wish - just be sure to clearly mark which round your entry is for.

Round 17 Scrambles
Closing time 7am UTC Sun 6 July.

Cross+1
1. B2 F2 R' F2 D2 R' F2 L' B2 L D2 B' D U F' D2 R' B R2 B R2
2. R D L U F R' F2 L2 B R L2 U L2 F2 D' L2 U B2 R2 F2 D
3. B2 D U2 F2 U B2 F2 R2 F2 U' L2 F' U' L D' F U F' L2 U' F'
4. B' R2 F2 U L D2 B D' B L' D2 L2 U2 F2 R U2 L' D2 B2
5. B2 R2 F' L2 B' D2 L2 B D2 L2 F R' D R' D' R D' B U L2
6. L2 U' B2 D R2 D' R2 F2 U' R2 U B' R D' L2 D' U' L D2 R' D'
7. L F2 B' R B2 D' R2 L' B U F2 B2 D2 L B2 L' D2 R D2 L' B2
8. F2 D' B2 U2 B2 R2 F2 D F2 D B' D R D B F2 R2 B U R'
9. L2 B' U2 D L' D2 F2 B R' U2 F2 L2 U2 L2 F' D2 R2 F L2 F
10. L2 D' R2 U' R2 U L2 B2 D' F2 U B D' B2 U' F' R' F' L2 F'
11. D2 B' D2 B' U2 L2 F' L2 B' U2 F U' L2 F' R U' L' D B2 L2 U2
12. B2 R' U L U2 D2 F L F' B D' F2 D' F2 U R2 F2 D R2 F2 D

Pairs
1. D R2 F2 L2 U R2 D R2 B2 D2 L' F2 R U' L' B' R' D' R' D
2. U R2 B2 R2 D' F2 R2 D R2 B2 D2 L D F2 D U' L' F' L F L U'
3. D' B2 U R2 U L2 U2 F2 L2 U F' B2 R2 L' D' R2 L' U2 B D2 U2
4. R2 D B2 D R2 U F2 U R2 L2 D L' D B U B' F2 D2 U2 R' D'
5. B2 D F2 U' B2 F2 D R2 U' B L' B' U2 F D2 R B2 R2 U'
6. F2 R2 D F2 R2 B2 D2 L2 D' R2 U' L D' R' B' U2 R2 B2 D' F L'
7. D' L2 D2 R2 B2 L2 U L2 D R2 D' B' R2 F D' U' R D2 F' D F' U'
8. U2 L2 F2 U2 F2 U L2 B2 U B2 U B D2 U' R2 B L' F D F R'
9. B2 R2 B2 D2 F2 U2 R2 D' B2 D B2 R' U' B' U F2 D' U2 L F2 R2
10. F2 L2 U' B2 U F2 D' B2 D2 B2 D' L B D U2 L2 D2 F' D U' L'
11. B2 R2 L2 D U2 R2 U' F2 D' B2 L' B D L U' L B' D2 B' R
12. D2 R2 B2 D' R2 D R2 L2 F2 L2 D2 F' D R D' F U' B' U' B2 F2 L'

LS+LL
1. B D2 B D2 F' L2 B R2 F2 D2 R D R' B L2 R F' R
2. B' R2 U' F' U' F2 R' F' U2 R2 B R2 D2 L2 B D2 R2 F
3. U2 F2 U2 F2 L' D2 L U2 R U2 R' U L' D2 L F2 U F2
4. B2 L D2 L' B2 R' U2 R2 F2 U2 L F R2 F' L' R' U
5. U2 F2 L F2 U2 L' U2 L' R U' B L' B L2 B2 R' U
6. F2 D R2 B2 U2 B2 U' B2 D' R2 U2 F' D' B' U2 B D F'
7. R U R2 U2 R' U2 R D2 F' L2 U2 F D2 F2 L2 F L2 F
8. R2 B2 U B2 D' R2 D R2 U' R' B L' B L B2 R'
9. R2 F2 U2 R2 U' R2 U' F2 R2 U2 R U2 R'
10. U R L' B' R B' L' F' R2 F2 D2 F R2 D2 F L2 B2 U2
11. F' R U R' F R U R' F2 R' F2 R U2 R' F2 R U2 F2
12. R U R U2 R' F R' F D2 L2 D2 L' U2 R' F2 R U2 L2 F2

Round 18 Scrambles
Closing time 7am UTC Sun 13 July.

Cross+1
1. L2 D2 B2 R F2 R2 B2 L U2 R2 B L D R2 U' B' R2 U2 R U'
2. L2 R2 D2 R2 F2 U L2 R2 U L2 U' B' R' F' D' B' R2 B R2 F R
3. L2 R2 D2 F2 L2 D' B2 R2 U' R2 B2 R U B2 F2 L U' B' F D' R
4. U D2 F' L' B D F R D2 F R2 F2 D2 L F2 D2 R L' D2 L2 U2
5. U R' F2 R' F R2 F2 U' L' B U2 B2 R2 D2 L2 U' B2 D B2 R2 F2
6. D' B2 D' L2 F2 D' L2 R2 B2 R2 U2 F' L' R F R B' L2 D' R' U2
7. D R D' B U' R' F U2 D' B U2 B2 U R2 L2 D' L2 F2 B2 U2 F2
8. F2 L2 D L2 B2 D U2 F2 R2 U B2 R' U B D' L2 F' D L' R' D'
9. U B2 R2 U' B2 L2 D2 B2 U' L2 D2 B D2 F' D' L B2 U2 F D2 U'
10. L2 R2 U' L2 R2 D' L2 U2 L2 F2 D' L R' U L2 R2 F' D2 B' R2 U
11. F' L2 B2 U2 B U2 B R2 B' D2 F U' F2 R B R2 F D2 R2 F' L'
12. D2 L2 B2 U F2 D2 R2 B2 D' L2 D' R' D B2 L' F R U L2

Pairs
1. F2 D L2 U L2 D L2 U2 R2 B2 U' L' F R2 B2 D R U' R U2 F'
2. D2 F2 R2 U R2 U' R2 B2 R2 B2 L' B F2 R2 D2 U F2 U2 F' R U
3. F2 U' R2 D' F2 U' B2 F2 U2 R2 U R U' B' U2 B L2 F' R2 D'
4. B2 R2 L2 U R2 U' R2 D2 F2 L2 U2 L D U F' R' F' U R' D L'
5. R2 B2 U L2 D' B2 D' R2 U2 L2 D' B' D' U2 L2 B R U R2 B2 U'
6. U R2 B2 L2 U L2 U2 R2 B2 D U B U' L D L' U' R2 D2 U2 B
7. L2 D B2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 B2 U2 R F D' F2 U2 R D R F2 D' U'
8. D F2 U2 F2 U F2 D B2 U2 R' F L U' L F U2 B R2 U
9. F2 D R2 D2 F2 U' F2 U' F2 U2 F2 L' D B U2 F U' B D R D' B2
10. B2 U2 B2 U F2 U R2 D' L2 F2 U R' F R2 D' L' F' D' B' D' U
11. U' R2 F2 L2 U R2 D F2 U R2 U F B2 L' B D' R2 B L' B L2 D'
12. F2 U2 F2 U B2 U2 B2 R2 D B2 D B R2 U2 L B2 F2 U F2 U2 L U'

LS+LL
1. L2 F2 U2 F2 L' F2 L2 B2 D2 F2 R' D' L D' L' B' F2 L B'
2. U F2 R2 D' L2 B2 D R2 U' L2 F2 L' U L2 F L' U F U
3. R2 U' F2 U2 F2 L2 D R2 U' B2 U R' D R B2 D2 L2
4. F' L' U' L F' U' F2 U D2 B2 U2 B2 D2 F' U2 F U2
5. R U2 R B U B U L2 F2 R2 D F2 L2 U' R2
6. F' L' U L F U R2 U2 F2 R F2 U2 R2 U2 L' U2 L
7. B L2 F2 L2 U2 B' R2 F R2 F' U2 L F L' U' F' U2 F
8. U2 B D2 B' U2 R2 B' R2 B2 D2 U' F' U F L' B L B2
9. F2 R D2 L D2 R' B2 F2 U2 R B' U' B U' B2 U R'
10. L2 F2 L2 U F2 D' R2 B2 U' B2 L2 F' D' B U2 F L' B' D F2
11. B2 D2 L' F2 L F2 R' F2 D2 B2 U2 F U F' U' B' R' B L'
12. F2 R' U2 R' B2 L2 F2 D2 B2 R' B' R' B2 L2 B' U

 

[RjFx2]

Round 17

Cross+1: 7.180
(12.501), 5.634, 5.634, 7.867, 10.501, 9.701, 5.684, (5.134), 6.034, 6.518, 8.101, 6.134

Pairs: 11.355
10.051, 14.267, 11.684, 11.984, 9.851, 9.701, (17.951), 11.434, 10.951, 13.084, (9.684), 10.551

LS+LL: 10.904
(14.267), 10.601, 9.601, 9.851, 10.986, 10.901, 10.201, (8.502), 14.218, 10.001, 10.601, 12.084

Average Time: 23.761
Best Time: 18.478
Worst Time: 35.560
Bad on full F2L, but very good on LS+LL, will work on cross+1 again and maybe pairs.

 

[TDM]

Let's see how the AoLong affects my times.

Round: 17
Cross+1: 3.85, 4.59, 2.14, 3.54, 4.25, 2.40, 5.23, 3.10, 4.45, 3.81, 5.23, 3.34 = 3.86
Pairs: 7.32, 5.63, 7.09, 6.65, 5.30, 6.19, 5.76, 6.35, 6.41, 8.17, 7.87, 7.90 = 6.72
LSLL: 7.21, 7.20, 8.52, 7.26, 6.63, 5.40, 9.63, 3.88, 6.07, 6.06, 7.54, 11.09 = 7.15

Failed pairs nearer the end
LSLL was... erm... yeah...

 

[Gordon]

Round 17:

Cross+1:
5.940, 8.293, (4.905), 10.092, 6.172, 10.797, 7.077, 8.618, 7.487, 11.518, (11.842), 9.364
--> 8.535

Pairs:
14.748, 15.298, 12.363, 11.965, 13.731, 17.799, 14.300, 11.909, (22.081), (9.014), 11.674, 10.518
--> 13.430
The 22.081 was because I scrambled in the usual way and needed to do F2L on a yellow cross...

LSLL:
10.478, (16.634), 9.803, 8.780, 15.329, 11.065, 9.590, (6.745), 12.901, 8.321, 7.014, 10.486
--> 10.376

 

[Antonie faz fan]

round 17:
cross +1:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 2.52

Time List:
1. 2.89 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. 2.68 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
3. 2.04 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
4. 1.99 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5. 1.80 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
6. (3.14) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
7. 2.43 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. 2.49 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
9. 2.90 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
10. (1.74) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
11. 3.06 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
12. 2.91 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

pairs:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 5.40

Time List:
1. (3.93) OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
2. 5.65 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
3. 4.64 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
4. (15.25[pop]) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5. 6.31 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
6. 3.95 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
7. 4.44 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. 6.12 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
9. 4.81 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
10. 6.02 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
11. 4.98 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
12. 7.06 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

LS+LL:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 4.90

Time List:
1. 4.87 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. 5.13 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
3. 4.55 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
4. 4.45 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
5. (7.05) OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
6. 5.79 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
7. 5.69 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. (3.02) OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
9. 4.30 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
10. 5.47 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
11. 4.24 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
12. 4.54 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

round 18

cross+1

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 2.45

Time List:
1. 2.04 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
2. 2.03 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
3. (3.63) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
4. 3.29 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5. 2.84 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
6. 2.53 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
7. 2.26 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. 2.89 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
9. 1.95 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
10. 2.74 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
11. (1.69) OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
12. 1.91 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

pairs:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 5.31

Time List:
1. 5.15 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. 4.55 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
3. 5.09 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
4. 4.78 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5. 4.12 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
6. 6.11 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
7. (6.53) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. 4.62 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
9. 6.23 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
10. 6.03 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
11. 6.42 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
12. (3.58) OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

LS+LL

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-7-4
avg of 12: 4.87

Time List:
1. 4.62 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
2. 4.90 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
3. 4.39 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
4. (6.44) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5. 5.80 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
6. 6.12 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
7. 3.96 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
8. 4.63 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
9. (3.55) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
10. 4.70 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
11. 4.65 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
12. 4.87 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

 

[pipkiksass]

This is for Round 17 (after a 2 week hiatus from cubing, so expecting bad things!)

Spoiler: Cross + 1: 5.25

6.02, (3.52), 5.56, (7.08), 4.30, 5.75, 4.95, 5.81, 5.87, 5.16, 3.88, 5.22

Spoiler: Pairs: 8.89

8.11, 7.98, 7.58, 8.15, 10.05 (HORRIBLE pairs scramble!), (6.38), 11.28, 10.18, 7.36, 8.42, 9.84, (11.43)

Spoiler: LS+LL: 8.03

9.29, (11.46), 8.17, 9.51, 8.82, 8.03, 7.57, (4.79), 5.42, 7.87, 5.51, 10.11 - #8 was pair skip, right?

Not too horrendous. I'm still scared by how bad my cross+1 is. I literally feel like I'm fumbling with the cube. When I get into pairs I feel much better. That first step and 1/4 of my solve needs SO much work!!!

 

[MarcelP]

Round 17

Cross + 1 : 5.29 5.18 5.17 5.89 5.45 (4.02) 4.96 5.68 4.23 5.18 (6.12) 5.07 = 5.21 // Wow..

Pairs: 8.35 7.92 (6.88) 7.28 8.13 8.76 (10.84) 9.33 7.84 9.78 7.25 9.79 = 8.44 // Sweet...

LS +LL : 9.18 8.36 9.03 9.25 8.35 8.75 7.60 (4.81) 7.55 7.70 8.24 (9.46) = 8.40 // Meh..

 

[PJKCuber]

LS + LL means Last slot and last layer right?