My Progression Thread

[ruffleduck]

u still use OCLLs in ZZ which are technically still part of OLL

Yeah but there's no need to "optimize" OCLL because all of the algs are already great for OH

 

[the dnf master]

well the U, L, and T cases don't have great standard algs for OH
but whatever, it doesn't matter

 

[ruffleduck]

well the U, L, and T cases don't have great standard algs for OH
but whatever, it doesn't matter

There's nothing wrong with the standard algs for OH.

 

[the dnf master]

but it can be optimized to be 2-gen

 

[ruffleduck]

but it can be optimized to be 2-gen

Worse movecount, not worth it.

 

[the dnf master]

More moves is worth saving a bunch a z rotations to do D or L moves

 

[ruffleduck]

More moves is worth saving a bunch a z rotations to do D or L moves

D and L moves? Z rotations? What alg are you talking about??

 

[the dnf master]

well for D moves you regrip but for L moves you do z rotations

 

[ruffleduck]

well for D moves you regrip but for L moves you do z rotations

The standard alg has neither D or L moves??

 

[the dnf master]

U: R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
L: x R' U R D' R' U' R D
T: r U R' U' L' U R U'
All of them have either L or D moves

 

[ruffleduck]

U: R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
L: x R' U R D' R' U' R D
T: r U R' U' L' U R U'
All of them have either L or D moves

Ok, the U alg has D moves but they're quite easy to execute OH.
That L alg is just bad. Just use the inverse of T.
T doesn't have any L or D moves. Rw is executed the same way as R. No need to do z rotations

 

[the dnf master]

Inverse of T is even worse, because of the F moves, so the best for OH is R' U2 R U (R' U' R U)2 R' U R, for T, if you don't do the Rw as L', you will have to do F moves, which is worse and for U, it is simply better to do the 2-gen alg for OH

 

[ruffleduck]

Inverse of T is even worse, because of the F moves, so the best for OH is R' U2 R U (R' U' R U)2 R' U R, for T, if you don't do the Rw as L', you will have to do F moves, which is worse and for U, it is simply better to do the 2-gen alg for OH

R' U2 R U (R' U' R U)2 R' U R is 15 moves, almost double the movecount. Awful
F moves are no problem for OH. git gud

 

[the dnf master]

F moves are a problem, it hinders TPS, where with R and U moves, you can turn so much faster which easily makes up for the high move count.

 

[ruffleduck]

F moves are a problem, it hinders TPS

Only if you suck at F moves. If that's the case then you just need to practice.

where with R and U moves, you can turn so much faster which easily makes up for the high move count.

"Easily" makes up for DOUBLE the movecount? Absolutely not.

 

[the dnf master]

Well I guess if you know both them, you should just use those algs for COLL to force a 2-gen PLL.

EDIT: School finished like an hour ago, so I can practice even more, and hopefully go to a comp this summer

 

[the dnf master]

FMC PB!!
Scramble: R' U' F B2 D' F2 D L2 D2 U F2 U B2 R2 B L' B R2 F L2 R D2 B D R' U' F
Solution: L’ B2 L F’ U B’ L’ D’ L R U’ L’ U R’ U’ D B L B’ U B2 U’ B’ U2 B L2 F R2 U' L' D2, 31 Moves

 

[the dnf master]

3x3 PB Single
Finally Sub 8
Generated By csTimer+ on 2021-06-12
single: 7.64

Time List:
1. 7.64 D2 R2 D' R2 F2 U2 B2 D F2 D L R' D F' L' R2 D' U L' B2
Cross was super easy and first pairs were also rlly easy to plan in inspection. Also it was fullstep, which makes me feel me feel better about the solve

 

[the dnf master]

Made my first yt vid, it's just a better alg for WV 1 that is rotationless even though the edge is misoriented. You can see it here
hope it helped

 

[the dnf master]

I switched my OLL 34 alg from R U R2 U' R' F R U R U' F' to f R f' U' r' U' R U M'.