My Best Time (for the teacher)

Harry

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Hey everyone, I get consistently below 1.40 min. What should I do from here? I currently using pjk's method.

Is it the time to learn Fridrich? Thanks everyone especially my teacher(s).....
 
no, it isn't the time to get started, just train your fingers and especially your feeling for the cube, until you drop to about one minute, then it is the time to learn Fridrich.

But what you should do is solving your cross on bottom, that trains your spatial imagination, so you don't have to see things while inserting the pieces.

Learning Algs and Fridrich method is less important and you should wait about 2 weeks.
 
Hmmmm, ok2. Maybe I will do what three of you say.... I will learn when I feel too that is after I dropped..... Btw, whaddya mean about 1 min? is it 1 min 7 s is not enough or I should get consistently get about 1 min?

Thanks
 
You shouldn't base your progress on a "Super Blessed" solve. My best solve is 28s, but I'm not a sub-30 solver. Learning a new method will slow down your times in the short run. I use full Fridrich, including all OLLs and PLLs but I'm a much slower solver than many, many people that use 4 look LL.

My latest inspiration has been Harris Chan's "Slow Turning" video. He's going at half speed, about 3 turns per second in my judgement, and still posted a ~17 second average of 10. He's using an more advanced method which requires only about 45 turns per solve, but if I could turn as steadily and smoothly as he does I would average about 20s and assuming your method is about 90-100 moves, that would give you a 30s average.

There's a lot more to work on than learning new tricks, I know it better than most. I've delayed moving to ZB or MGLS because I have *way* too much room for improvement before an expert method is required.
 
I agree with Lofty. Learn what you feel you want to!

I have been cubing all over the world for years now, but I still don't know OLL/PLL/F2L. I enjoy solving more than I do learning algs so I just don't take the time to learn "stupid" algs. (and I am stil getting my times down. Lately I have hit 20.1 seconds on average)

Wow, Arnaud - 20.1 seconds! Nice!
 
You shouldn't base your progress on a "Super Blessed" solve. My best solve is 28s, but I'm not a sub-30 solver. Learning a new method will slow down your times in the short run. I use full Fridrich, including all OLLs and PLLs but I'm a much slower solver than many, many people that use 4 look LL.

How come you are slower? I thought fridrich method is the fastest?

There's a lot more to work on than learning new tricks, I know it better than most. I've delayed moving to ZB or MGLS because I have *way* too much room for improvement before an expert method is required.

Waddya mean by ZB or MGLS? Btw, if you say sub-30 solve have 'way too much improvement', how about me? Walah we...........
 
You shouldn't base your progress on a "Super Blessed" solve. My best solve is 28s, but I'm not a sub-30 solver. Learning a new method will slow down your times in the short run. I use full Fridrich, including all OLLs and PLLs but I'm a much slower solver than many, many people that use 4 look LL.

How come you are slower? I thought fridrich method is the fastest?

Learning a new method doesn't necessarily make you faster. Say you learned the entire Fridrich method, which is about ~112 algorithms, and then your normal speed was one turn per second. Then since the Fridrich method averages ~55 moves, you would get a 55 second average. All this means, is that to get fast, you have to practice. Another method may make it easier to GET faster, but you still have to practice. The layer by layer method with 4 look last layer has been proven to get times of a sub 20 second average, but that is difficult to achieve.

The Fridrich method is not necessarily the fastest method. It is the most popular speed cubing method used, and is the method the fastest cubers use, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the fastest. Other method may be faster, but not a lot of people have tried them out yet.

There's a lot more to work on than learning new tricks, I know it better than most. I've delayed moving to ZB or MGLS because I have *way* too much room for improvement before an expert method is required.

Waddya mean by ZB or MGLS? Btw, if you say sub-30 solve have 'way too much improvement', how about me? Walah we...........[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't worry about ZB or MGLS right now. Those are advanced ways of solving the cube. When I say advanced, you should get a sub 15 average before learning ZB (don't know about MGLS).

Yeah a sub 30 solve needs a lot of improvement - times have been proven to lower than 11 second averages. Yes you need improvement, but at your level, improvement is VERY easy. When you start getting 30 averages, improvement speed slows down....:(
 
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